Hey there. It's Michael Lewis, host of Against the Rules at Pushkin. I've been working

on a new book. Can't give it all away, but it involves trips to the Bahamas and court

dates and crypto trading and ankle bracelets. There's one thing I always do when I sit down

to write. A lot of interviews on background. They almost never make it into the book, but

they just give me a kind of context of what my characters are going through. And I'm

going to end that phase right now. I'm going to let you in on these background interviews.

On the record, once a month, listen in as I call up some esoteric expert, like a crypto

sleuth who traces secrets on the blockchain, or a regulator who knows what's against the

rules for crypto firms trading other people's money. Listen to against the rules wherever

you get your podcasts.

Pushkin.

Hi, bad women listeners. It's Alice here. One of the great joys of working on this show,

aside from researching and writing about the lives of the women, has been finding out about

nightlife in 1940s London. We've worked with contemporary musicians to help bring the

bars and clubs of Soho and Piccadilly to life. Our sound designer Pascal Wise and one

of those musicians at Gokken were recently invited onto the Pushkin podcast, Broken Record

to talk about their work. We thought you might want to hear that conversation. And some

of the tracks played in full. It's a great lesson. Enjoy.

Hello, hello, Justin Pascal here, who's the composer, sound designer, and I'm

Ed. So I kind of got the band together for the bad women session. So yeah, Pascal's

playing trombone, Ed's playing guitar. I'm now talking about myself in the third person,

like James Brown.

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