Hey there, next picture show listeners. For those of you who may have missed the announcement on last week's episode, we had to shift our upcoming schedule of episodes just a little bit. And so we decided to once again bring an episode that we recorded for our Patreon page out from behind the paywall so that you can enjoy it here on the main feed. I will let Keith explain it from here, and we will be back next week with a new pairing.

All right, welcome to a special episode of the Next Picture Show. My name is Keith Fiv's. I have convened a council of fans of a particular movie, and I'll walk us up to this here.

Long-time listeners of the show know that Tasha Robinson will, at any opportunity,

talk about the 2008 film, The Fall, by Tar Simpson.

And I'm also a dedicated listener of a podcast called The Flop House,

which is hosted by Dan McCoy, Stuart Wellington, and our special guest tonight,

Elliot Kalin.

Mr. Kalin here has served as the head writer of The Daily Show and Mystery Science Seger 3,000,

and my kid's favorite of your shows, The Who Was Show, and also the author of the books,

Horse Meets Dog, Shark and Hippo, and the forthcoming Comic Maniac of New York, which sounds pretty amazing. Elliot Kaelin, welcome to the show. Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it. I'm excited to talk about the fall, a movie that I am also prone to bringing up on my podcast to the bafflement and total inability to talk about it at my co-hosts because they did not see it. That was just it. I felt like I had to bring two fall super fans to the show. And I have watched the film now, too, after years of being told to watch it by Tasha and indirectly encouraged by you, Elliot. So I guess we'll just talk about this. I'll just ask you right off the bat. What about this movie? What is it so deeply feeling to each of you? Elliot, I am so excited to meet another fall super fan. Most of the fall super fans I know are people I have sat down and showed this movie too. So I'm just really curious to hear from you. Like how you came to it, how long you've been a fan, and what is it about it for you? Sure, sure. I mean, it's, I'm excited to because the only other big fan of the movie I know is my wife. And we happened to see it during its very short theatrical run. And it was literally like one of these magical pre-COVID, pre-my having children times when we when we said hey we should go out to a movie tonight what

movie should we see and roger ebert's review of the fall had come out and he basically said in it

i don't know if you're going to like this movie but you're never going to see a movie like this again

and it was playing at the since-past sunshine theater on house and street in York City in Manhattan. And he was on Houston, right? Anyway, that's the last – maybe it was it a house or not a lens? No, it's Houston, I think. Anyway, that's the least important thing anyone needs to know what street, a theater that's not there anymore was on. And they were also showing 2001 of Space Odyssey that at midnight, and I said, let's go see both of these movies. One of them I have never seen, and the other one I've seen a bunch of times.

And we went to go see the fall, and we were both so just like mesmerized by it. And partly

visually, because it's visually, it's gorgeous. And there are so many moments in it where you're

like, I don't know how they accomplish that without having all the resources of a major studio behind them. But also,

like, the story is this very, like, almost deliberately messy and emotionally messy story.

And it felt very powerful to us. And the end of the movie, spoiler alert, but the end of the movie spoiler alert but the end of the

movie you're literally watching just scenes of stunts from silent comedies in a montage with

music playing over it and I was crying so hard because it was like it was just like hit me so hard

the the feelings that the characters in the movie had invested these moments with.

And then we were both blown away, and I was like, just wait until we watched 2001 at midnight.

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