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That's kind of conversation between your soul.

That's conversation. To your soul. Hello, Prestige Heads, and welcome to American Prestige. I'm Danny Bessner, here as always with my friend and comrade, Derek Davidson.

And we are very excited to welcome to the podcast today, Stacey Goddard. Stacey is a Betty Fryhoff Johnson, 44 professor of political science at Wellesley College.

And we've invited Stacey to talk about her piece in foreign affairs,

the rise and fall of great power competition, Trump's new spheres of influence. So, first of all,

Stacey, thank you very much for joining us. Thank you for having me. So before we get into the meat of the article, maybe you could give a little bit of context about how the article came to be

if foreign affairs invited you,

and what you wanted to get across, or why you thought an article like this needed to be

written now, and then we'll dive in, as they say.

Sure. So I've been thinking about Great Power Competition for a while. I've written a book on it.

I teach a class on it. And I was looking at the beginning of the

Trump administration with some confusion. And in the midst of this confusion, I got an email from

one of the editors of Foreign Affairs, Dan Kurtzvailen, who asked if we could talk. And so we had a

call. And he asked me,

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