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American Prestige

Bonus - The Death of the Iran Deal w/ Esfandyar Batmanghelidj (Preview)

American Prestige

Daniel Bessner & Derek Davison

History, Politics, News

4.8705 Ratings

🗓️ 5 October 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Subscribe now for the full episode. Don’t forget to vote for AP in the 2025 Signal Awards! Derek welcomes back to the show Esfandyar Batmanghelidj, founder of the Bourse & Bazaar Foundation and professor at Johns Hopkins, to talk through the slow demise of the Iran nuclear deal. They delve into Europe’s decision to trigger the UN “snapback” mechanism, factors that lead to this moment, from Trump’s withdrawal and Biden’s hesitation to Europe’s impatience and Iran’s deepening ties with Russia and China, the effects of sanctions being imposed without diplomacy, and why the JCPOA’s collapse is a symptom of a wider breakdown in the international order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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That's conversation. To your soul. Hello American Presti's listeners. It's Derek, and I am very grateful to be joined, I believe, for the second time on this program, by Espandiar Badman Gile. She is the founder and CEO of the Burson Bazaar Foundation. He's also adjunct professor at Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies. Yarr, thank you so much for coming back to the program.

1:15.7

Derek, thanks for having me and great to be back.

1:18.5

It is great to be back. Thank you for acknowledging that.

1:27.3

We like to get some love from the guests. But we are going to talk about all the wonderful things that are happening

1:28.0

around negotiations on Iran's nuclear program. As people are probably familiar, if you've been

1:33.8

listening to our news episodes, I've been trying to keep people updated on this. The European

1:39.9

3, the E3, Germany, France, and the UK, invoke what's called the snapback mechanism of the

1:47.8

2015 nuclear deal of joint comprehensive plan of action to reimpose, this has all been done now

1:54.7

as we're recording this. They evoked at late September, or late August, rather, and then

2:00.2

the sanctions came back late September.

2:04.1

All the UN sanctions that were lifted under that 2015 deal have now been reimposed.

2:10.5

So, Yarr, having said that, given that very brief outline of what's happened here,

2:16.5

can you flesh that out, explain to people in the context of

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