All right. Joining me now back again is Steven Donzinger. Steven, I wish I could be talking to you

under better circumstances, but as it currently stands, you are scheduled to be what sentence tomorrow?

Yes. Tomorrow? What are your thoughts going into what is the culmination of a

year's long ordeal? Well, thanks for having me. I mean, it's brutal. I'm just not the way to

describe it, although I'm optimistic the result could be good, meaning I'll get released from my,

you know, in an ordinantly long house arrest. Now, 786 days today for a misdemeanor contempt charge

after, you know, as people out there in your audience, I think, no, I'd be Chevron and Court

representing Indigenous Groups in Ecuador and historic pollution judgment for about $10 billion.

They attacked me here in New York and basically, I'm the target of probably the nation's first

corporate criminal prosecution where a judge charging with disobeying a court order that I turn

over my computer to Chevron, which is, I think, a lawful, crazy unheard of. And after I appealed

the lawfulness of that order, the same judge charged you with a crime for not conflying with an

order that I had appealed. So he then locked me up and charged you with a misdemeanor and no person

in the federal system ever has been held pretrial and a misdemeanor person, I should say, with no

criminal record like me, for even a day. And I've been here now, you know, over two years. So

this is highly irregular. I think the real danger is that this represents a certain corporate

capture of our federal judges by Chevron, by the fossil fuel industry. I think this is their

playbook for the future, that is, you know, where people become too successful and holding

their accountable for their pollution or their destruction of the planet. They will be

prosecuted directly by private law firms that they control, which is happening to me. The

law firm was sued in Kisler with the New York law firm that as Chevron as a client,

and they're prosecuting me after the US government in Manhattan, the regular federal prosecutor

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