Hello Hannah. I know you're emerging from the forest but we wanted to do this

podcast behind your back. McCall from Bassals of Kingsgrave is here today to

talk to us about Sir Kristen Cole.

Oh my God.

We shall call this the ballot of Sir Kristen Cole.

No, we shall call this in defense of Sir Kristen Cole. The reason we're recording this episode today is because

Hannah is at a summer camp, so we thought following the events of Sunday night, what better

to replace our mid-week episode, which we'll be airing on Saturday that a focused conversation on our favorite subject from that Sunday night?

So Mikkall, can you start with just telling us your thesis?

Yeah, I mean, well, I'm actually going to start by apologizing to Hannah.

I am sorry.

I feel like this is kind of like coming home and finding like a dead raccoon in your batteries.

The second her phone turns on, she refresses the podcast.

That says, in defense of Sir Kristen Cole on the top of her podcast.

Oh my God.

I'm playing bad cop, by the way, the way today to you just for everyone listening.

This isn't going to be a full hug of Sir Kristen Cole because I'm not on your side but

when we were texting about it I thought it was you were bringing up some

interesting points. So I've thought way too long about this and my basic

thesis is not I want to be very clear that Kristen Cole is like a good person or a good

dude or whatever I think he's an interesting character whose actions are consistent

with his experiences in the show as portrayed. So I think that when... I mean obviously anybody

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