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This Wreckage

BONUS: Smothering Heights w/ Susannah Grossman Wolfe

This Wreckage

Sean KB and AP Andy

Arts, Music

4.2980 Ratings

🗓️ 27 February 2026

⏱️ 6 minutes

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Summary

Our gothic romance correspondent Susannah returns to chat about Emerald Fennell's kinkified adaptation of the Brontë classic, Wuthering Heights!

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romantic literature what does gothic literature do you know for people in the 19th century is it um

0:09.0

distances them from egotistical calculation right there's this world and maybe we need that more

0:14.3

than ever now now we need that yeah because like there is a world that's arising around them

0:19.1

which is very confusing to them much as the world that's arising around them, which is very confusing to them, much as the

0:22.0

world that's arising around us is very confusing to us, where hierarchical bonds, patriarchal bonds,

0:29.2

separations of classes are being undermined, not by choices they made, but by modes of production.

0:36.5

Or maybe a new mode of production is asserting itself as a new form of nature or a new

0:41.6

natural order.

0:42.5

And there's this tension with a previous conception of nature or maybe even maybe that's

0:48.1

where the gothic trope of eternal love comes in.

0:51.5

Yeah.

0:51.9

So like you need to reach towards cosmic or romantic or, like, archetypal or

0:58.1

by ron, whatever you want to call it.

0:59.7

These archetypes that allow you to, like, separate yourself from this world of

1:07.2

accountancy and this world of accumulation and this world of exploitation.

1:14.3

Like, and the Brontes, it seems to me, were at a perfect spot to not only separate

1:20.5

themselves from that through novels like this and elsewhere, but also to encounter it,

1:24.9

right?

1:25.1

So like the father encounters the Luddite rebellion and the daughters and son

1:30.8

encounter the Chartist movement, right?

1:33.7

Like this early working class movement for democracy and freedom and rights, you know?

1:39.8

And so maybe in some way, you know, not that she's conscious of it, but Emily Lagasse

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