They should be thinking you for a storyline. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. That was like the best part of the season.

I'm not going to thank any of those X's. So I don't think you need to thank them.

Welcome to Here to Make Friends, a half-post podcast about the Bachelor franchise where we lovingly

snark on the Bachelor and Bachelor adjacent shows. Whether you love the Bachelor or love to hate it,

we're here to break down every single delicious moment with you. I'm Emma Gray and I'm Claire Fowler.

We are sitting here today with the always delightful Andy Dwarfman, who is not only a former

Bachelor at, but a New York Times bestselling author. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me.

And we're here today to talk about your second book. Yay. Single State of Mind. Yeah.

Second book. I know. Crazy, right? How does it feel? It feels good. I'm a little nervous. It's like

the sophomore album. I feel like it's a lot more pressure than the first one because the first

sort of is kind of like, all right, here's a book, like kind of a project type of thing and take it,

you know, as you will. The second one, I'm like, this is either going to be my career or it's not. So

there's a lot of pressure on the second one. Yeah. Yeah. And then this book, you're kind of also

focusing less on your connection to the Bachelor franchise. Yeah, which is hard. You know, as much as

you, we kind of like complain that, oh, I'm owing Bachelor. Everyone only views me as a Bachelor

or a Bachelor at to kind of branch off from that is scary. It's like going a different direction.

This book definitely isn't branching completely off of that because I don't think I'll ever be

completely done with the Bachelor of Bachelor at Frances, which I don't want to be. There's some great

things about it. But this is definitely kind of breaking off into my own genre, I would say.

Yeah, which is scary. I have no idea to play anything on. No producer. I keep like, oh, I got a fat edit.

You still have an editor to stick. My editor cut out all the parts for like, this thing that's

confusing you and like, it's not my fault. But my editor doesn't have like a Twitter account.

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