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Hello and welcome to the Big Technology podcast, a show for cool-headed, nuanced conversation of the tech world and beyond. And welcome to a bonus episode with Senator Amy Klobuchar.

Senator Klobuchar is the chairwoman of the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on competition policy,

antitrust, and consumer rights. And she'll be leading the charge in Congress as the legislature

interrogates the power of big tech and potentially takes action to restrain it. Klobuchar

and I spoke this week ahead of the first hearing she held to kick off the process. And rather than

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