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Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts

Bonus: SCOTUS Nukes Wetlands Protections

Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts

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News Commentary,, Government, News

4.63.4K Ratings

🗓️ 26 May 2023

⏱️ 4 minutes

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Summary

In this bonus episode for Amicus Plus listeners, Dahlia Lithwick and Slate’s Mark Joseph Stern discuss the latest biggest Supreme Court decision: Sackett v EPA. It’s good news for developers and polluters, bad news for the rest of us.

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0:00.0

Hi, this is Dahlia Lithwick. It's not even junior yet, and opinion Paloza at the

0:06.6

High Court has already kicked off with a bang. On Thursday, three decisions came

0:11.8

down, including Sackett VEPA. The case concerning wetlands and the waters of

0:17.2

the United States with huge implications for pollution and biodiversity.

0:22.0

Mark Joseph Stern and I got together to pick over what's left of federal

0:26.5

water policy on an extra episode for our Slate Plus members. In what was

0:31.4

effectively a five-to-four decision, the majority, which was Alito, Roberts,

0:36.8

Thomas, Gorsuch, and Barrett, decided to just rewrite the Clean Water Act. And they

0:42.4

said, look, if this really protects all those wetlands, that's a lot of wetlands.

0:46.4

And we think that's too much protection for wetlands. And we know a lot of

0:50.9

developers want to obliterate those wetlands. And we like those developers, and we

0:55.4

want them to obliterate the wetlands. So we're going to take a pen and cross out

1:00.8

the words wetlands adjacent to and replace them with this new test. So the new

1:07.0

test says that wetlands have to have a continuous surface connection. That is

1:11.4

pretty rare. I think a majority of wetlands in this country do not have an

1:16.4

ongoing connection to a larger body of water because that's not how they work,

1:20.4

right? They dry up in some seasons, they flood in other seasons. They're often

1:26.0

separated from the larger body of water by something like a berm or a dune. And

1:31.8

because of that, there are just a huge number of wetlands that will not be

1:37.2

protected under this decision. It's so egregious that even Brett Kavanaugh had to

1:42.2

write an opinion saying, I think we should stick to the text. The text says that

1:46.8

any wetlands that are adjacent to a larger body of water are protected.

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