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Bonus: SchadenFriday: Are You Fitter Than an ICE Applicant?

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate

News, Daily News, News Commentary, Politics

4.6 • 2.3K Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2025

⏱️ 6 minutes

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Summary

You can have enough ICE recruits or you can have standards for the shape that they’re in, but you can’t have both—this was just one lesson Donald Trump could have learned this week, in between hosting a summit of McDonald’s franchise owners and calling a reporter “piggie.” Guest: Rebecca Onion, Slate senior staff writer. This episode is member-exclusive. Listen to it now by subscribing to Slate Plus. By joining, not only will you unlock exclusive episodes of What Next —you’ll also access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the What Next show page on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Happy Friday Slatesters. Welcome back to another edition of Shoutin Friday. This is our Slate Plus

0:07.8

exclusive series for when you need a little pick me up. And you know what? Listeners to our show,

0:14.3

I'm just going to say, I think you need to pick me up because let's just go over what happened

0:18.9

this week. Things we didn't even get to on the broadcast.

0:23.6

The president in the United States was asked about the Epstein Files on Air Force One.

0:28.0

He shushed a reporter by saying, quiet piggy. Like, that is a thing that happened in the world this week.

0:36.3

The president also welcomed Muhammad bin Salman,

0:40.4

the Saudi Arabian prince to the White House, the guy who's behind the killing of U.S.

0:45.3

journalist Jamal Khashoggi. And when he was asked about it, Donald Trump said

0:51.5

Khashoggi was controversial. Whether you like him or didn't like him, things happen. Just a tremendous use of the passive voice there. Anyway, I hear these headlines and I need a break, which is why we're here. Shout in Friday. You know what it is. Every week we talk, not every week, every week, every other week. We talk about things in the news that are making us feel that sort of smiling purple devil emoji vibe. And I bring the Slater to do it with me. And here this week, I'm so excited, Rebecca Onion, Slate Senior Writer, extraordinaire. I think this is your first time on the show, Rebecca.

1:28.7

You know, I think it might be, and I'm so excited that it's this particular segment that I'm on.

1:35.3

The happy segment.

1:36.6

That is so long, by the way, because, like, Rebecca and I, like, we have a secret Slack

1:40.6

relationship, which is kind of one-sided.

1:43.1

I basically pursue Rebecca because Rebecca

1:45.4

covers higher education and culture. And I'm always like, hi, talk to me. Talk to me about the things.

1:50.7

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. In fact, recently, like you wrote an article is the new Frankenstein film

1:57.5

Hot. Oh, yes. And have you seen it?

2:00.9

And do you agree with my thesis?

2:02.3

I have not.

2:03.0

My husband watched it without me.

2:05.0

I feel like your answer is yes.

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