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Conspirituality

Bonus Sample: The War on Fat People

Conspirituality

Derek Beres, Matthew Remski, Julian Walker

Spirituality, Social Sciences, Religion & Spirituality, Science, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.22K Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2025

⏱️ 6 minutes

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Summary

The Wellness Company is now selling retatrutide, a weight loss drug currently undergoing stage 3 trials by Eli Lilly. An anti-vax company that uses fear-based marketing to push supplements appears to be overstepping legal lines. Yet will they be held accountable in an RFK Jr-led HHS? Derek looks at private market healthcare propaganda from Ronald Reagan to Kennedy, showing how health is not the real goal of MAHA. But if they can sell untested products to fat and chronically ill patients along the way, all the better. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Here's Ronald Reagan in 1961.

0:05.0

One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine.

0:13.0

It's very easy to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian project.

0:20.0

Most people are a little reluctant to oppose anything that suggests medical care for people who possibly can't afford it.

0:27.6

Now, the American people, if you put it to them about socialized medicine and gave them a chance to choose, would unhesitatingly vote against it.

0:36.2

Oh, Ronnie, what an audition.

0:38.6

And 19 years later, it would land you in the White House.

0:43.0

It sounds like so many of the arguments for not implementing universal health care today.

0:49.6

And in fact, Reagan and Reaganomics is very much the modern incarnation of that argument as to why we should not have it.

0:58.3

In a little while, we'll hear RFK Jr. basically make the same argument in his own way.

1:06.5

Going back to that time, though, to be fair, Reagan was actually not against all facets of universal health care.

1:13.9

For example, he supported the Kerr Mills Act of 1960, which provided federal funds to states to take care of elderly people who couldn't afford health care.

1:25.9

His stated opposition was to compulsory government health care

1:30.5

programs, which to me is a bit of a misnomer, but I'll get back to that. I want to play one more

1:36.9

clip from that era, however, because it really captures the sort of frantic ideology that exists in the Milton Friedman free market principles that have

1:49.2

dominated America for generations now. And Ronnie just really nails it in this moment.

1:55.8

James Madison in 1788 speaking to the Virginia Convention said, Since the general civilization of mankind,

2:02.9

I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people

2:06.6

by gradual and silent encroachment of those in power

2:09.4

than by violent and sudden usurpations.

2:12.4

Was he talking about Trump and Musk there?

2:14.8

No, no.

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