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Conspirituality

Bonus Sample: On Death & Being Human

Conspirituality

Derek Beres, Matthew Remski, Julian Walker

Social Sciences, Philosophy, Society & Culture, Science

4.02.2K Ratings

🗓️ 2 March 2026

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Summary

Cult leaders, religious fanatics, dictators, and charlatans all have one thing in common: they exploit our fear of death. Humans act out “immortality projects” in the form of religion, culture, and political ideologies as unconscious ways  to override the terror we feel at our uniquely self-aware knowledge that we will one day die. Where the orthodox priest promises eternal life, the cult leader might predict an alien apocalypse, while the authoritarian strongman invokes the transcendent glory of leading a chosen nation and race. In light of a recent death in the family, Julian leans into Ernest Becker’s Pulitzer Prize winning cultural anthropology text, The Denial of Death. He also draws on poetry and the archetypal psychology of Donald Kalsched to ask the big questions. Does existential acceptance of death lead inevitably to nihilism? Is belief in God(s) and an afterlife necessary? Are poor or deeply traumatized people only left with despair in the absence of supernatural faith? Will children raised with no religion have no moral compass? A rich discussion of philosophy and psychology alongside poems, myths, fairy tales, and deeply personal story-telling, especially about how to tell his 7-year-old that grandma won’t be back for Xmas. Not to worry, though. This is, ultimately, an uplifting journey. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Humans need fantasy to be human, to be the place where the falling angel meets the rising

0:10.0

ape.

0:11.0

Isn't that a marvelous quote from novelist Terry Pratchett?

0:15.0

I'll come back around to it in a little while.

0:18.0

It's been a tough time in our household because my mother-in-law recently died,

0:22.6

and it reminded me that death is coming for us all. Now, don't be alarmed. I'm not announcing

0:28.1

the apocalypse. I'm just stating a fact. Though it is interesting how many cult leaders and religious

0:33.1

prophets have claimed special knowledge about both the afterlife and the end of the world.

0:39.3

It's not just the heaven's gate leaders, tea and dough, saying that the world was about to be recycled,

0:45.3

and your only salvation would be to abandon your earth's suit and ascend to the alien mothership.

0:52.3

It's also the myriad preachers who thought they knew when Jesus was coming back,

0:56.7

like William Miller, whose prediction that the Savior would appear in October of 1844,

1:03.0

right before the world would be cleansed by fire, turned what was called the Great Awakening

1:08.5

into what would later jokingly be referred to as the

1:11.5

great disappointment.

1:12.6

That's right, as many as 100,000 true believers across the American Northeast were disappointed

1:19.6

that the world didn't end when Pastor Miller said it would.

1:23.6

Or how about Juhayman al-Oythai, the Saudi Arabian Salafi leader, who believed his brother-in-law was the Mahdi.

1:31.3

That's a Muslim savior figure prophesied to come to earth right before the day of judgment.

1:36.3

Together with 600 militants, he laid siege to the grand mosque in Mecca, the holiest site in Islam,

1:42.3

for two weeks in 1979, right at the time when

1:46.5

50,000 people were gathered there for religious ceremonies. Figures like this are both

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