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Conspirituality

Bonus Sample: My Religious Attitude Toward Science

Conspirituality

Derek Beres, Matthew Remski, Julian Walker

Spirituality, Social Sciences, Religion & Spirituality, Science, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.2 β€’ 2K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 1 November 2021

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Summary

Okay, maybe the title is overstated. But, as Matthew explores in this bonus episode: what are the contours of social comfort and habitus β€” supported by faith and ritual β€” that haunt any layperson's relationship to science? When the pressure is on, be it acute or existential, do we really display "critical thinking" β€” or are we really skilled at post-hoc rationalizing choices that embody the social status we wish to identify with?What are the psychosocial scents that waft from institutional actors vs. influencers, and what does it say about history and personal experience that one or the other is inviting, or terrifying?Finally: both Steve Hassan and Lee McIntyre have proposed that careful 1:1 conversations can re-establish interpersonal trust with the indoctrinated. But when we're talking about making vulnerable populations less susceptible to pseudoscience and conspiracy theories, is this really sufficient? Or must we consider broader forms of social atonement, like reparations? Show NotesSapolsky: Religious Ritual is OCDB.C. health officer Dr. Bonnie Henry on COVID-19333,000 children were abused within France's Catholic Church, a report finds Santa Claus and Dr. Tam have a video chat -- -- --Support us on PatreonPre-order Conspirituality: How New Age Conspiracy Theories Became a Health Threat: America | Canada Follow us on Instagram | Twitter: Derek | Matthew | JulianOriginal music by EarthRise SoundSystem Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, Matthew here from the Conspirituality Podcast team.

0:08.1

The following is a sample of the bonus episode we produce every week for our Patreon subscribers.

0:14.4

You can support our work and have full access to bonus episodes and other premium content

0:19.2

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0:26.7

Thanks for listening and your support which keeps us ad-free and editorially independent.

0:34.2

My religious attitude towards science.

0:37.1

What the scientific attitude is most basically is a commitment about values.

0:43.0

That is author Lee McIntyre speaking with my co-host Julian Walker in episode 75.

0:50.0

Lee's book is called How to Talk to a Science Denire.

0:53.8

It's a commitment about not wanting to fool ourselves with whatever we think is true and the idea

1:03.2

that we're going to test it against nature. It's a certain amount of humility.

1:07.7

There's a certain amount of cooperative spirit with other scientists.

1:12.0

That's something else that I think is really important about science is that there's this

1:16.7

community ethos of checking one another's work and being honest about it and not claiming that

1:25.1

your theory is right just because you're the one who came up with it but being willing as I said

1:30.5

to change your mind when the evidence shows that you're not right. That's something that I think

1:35.1

is humanity at its best. Hello dear listeners. So to start I want to pick out some keywords here

1:43.3

and explore them a little bit. McIntyre speaks of values of not wanting to fool ourselves of

1:51.0

humility of a cooperative spirit and a community ethos and the whole process or value of being

1:59.8

honest and not self-centered. Now these are all things that are valued in many types of community

2:07.5

including religious ones and what I think McIntyre might say is that at the center of the scientific

2:15.4

project lies the data, the material facts of the world and that serves as the pole star of honesty,

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