Bonus Sample: Mark Carney’s Secular Catholicism
Conspirituality
Derek Beres, Matthew Remski, Julian Walker
4.0 • 2.2K Ratings
🗓️ 16 February 2026
⏱️ 5 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello everyone. This is Conspiruality, where we investigate the intersections and roots of |
| 0:08.1 | conspiracy theories and spiritual influence to uncover cults, pseudoscience, and authoritarian |
| 0:12.2 | extremism. My name is Matthew Remski. You can follow myself, Derek and Julian, on Blue Sky. The podcast |
| 0:19.1 | is on Instagram and threads under its own handle. |
| 0:22.6 | You can also find me on YouTube and TikTok and upscrolled at Anti-Fascist Dad. |
| 0:29.8 | Short bonus episode today in which I'll be flagging some of the religious influences buried within Mark Carney's technocratic charisma. Mark Carney is a devout Catholic. |
| 0:40.2 | He opens his big 20-22 book with an anecdote about receiving a spiritual mission from Pope Francis. |
| 0:47.4 | So I'll get back to that in detail. The book is called Values, Building a Better World for All, |
| 0:53.8 | and it's Carney's meditation on the perennial tension between market values and human values. |
| 0:59.3 | He makes the incredibly unoriginal observation that modern society has mistakenly allowed the former to override the latter. |
| 1:06.9 | To explain this logic, he surprisingly relies on Marxist theories of surplus labor value, |
| 1:13.1 | the instability of markets based on profit motives, and the tendency for monopolies to become authoritarian. |
| 1:19.6 | But because in his analysis, the state socialist projects of the 20th century were all irredeemable failures, his medicine is liberal. |
| 1:29.8 | Markets are social constructs that must be grounded in solidarity, responsibility, and resilience to effectively serve the public good. |
| 1:35.4 | He talks about a purpose-driven approach to capitalism that prioritizes long-term goals, |
| 1:40.9 | such as climate sustainability and social equity. His critique of state socialism |
| 1:46.3 | is pretty standard capitalist exceptionalism. Managed economies, he says, are inefficient, |
| 1:52.9 | hostile to innovation and creativity. He thinks Smith's invisible hand has proven superior to planned |
| 1:59.2 | production, and he agrees with Fukuyama that the |
| 2:02.3 | tear-down of the Berlin Wall marked the end of capitalist socialist struggle. |
| 2:06.3 | He's even a bit of a dialecticist in that the problem, he says, is partly that the collapse of |
| 2:11.8 | communist regimes at the end of the 1980s reinforced a global shift toward market fundamentalism, |
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