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Conspirituality

Bonus Sample: Leaving S-Factor pt. 2 (w/Jessica Hopper)

Conspirituality

Derek Beres, Matthew Remski, Julian Walker

Philosophy, Science, Social Sciences, Society & Culture

4.02.2K Ratings

🗓️ 12 December 2022

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

Those who fly high, fall hard. Pole dance company S-Factor crashed and burned in 2021 amidst a stack of complaints. Detractors said the company was conducting unlicensed group therapy, cosplaying enlightenment by co-opting the labour of sex workers, and whitewashing issues of racial equality.Created by former actor Sheila Kelley, S-Factor monetized pole dancing as a path of feminist and spiritual awakening.In Part 2 of this Listener Story, Matthew speaks to Jessica Hopper about her 13 years learning and teaching in the now-defunct company. Hopper paints a picture of a confusing, high-demand group, and tells us how she made her way out. NOTE: During our discussion, Jessica recounts a tense all-hands S-factor staff meeting to discuss PR strategy at a crucial moment as the company cracked-up over issues of white fragility. I wasn't able to secure a recording of that call before my interview with Jessica, or since. But after we recorded, I did confirm what Jessica reports about it with 3 of the other participants on that call.  MRShow NotesStripped Down: The Undoing of Hollywood's Favorite Pole-Dancing Studio —Hollywood Reporter."Strip Down, Rise Up" | Official Trailer | NetflixFaces of Fierce Femininity—online conference organized by Kelly BroganVisual Pleasure and Narrative Cinema—Laura Mulvey, 1975 -- -- --Support us on PatreonPre-order Conspirituality: How New Age Conspiracy Theories Became a Health Threat: America | Canada Follow us on Instagram | Twitter: Derek | Matthew | JulianOriginal music by EarthRise SoundSystem Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is a Glassbox Media Podcast.

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Hello, Conspirituality Podcast listeners.

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Welcome to a sample of our weekly Patreon bonus episode.

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or choose a higher tier to access our live streams and bonus videos.

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All of this is available at patreon.com slash Conspirituality.

0:39.0

Thank you for your support.

0:41.0

Jessica, I think I'm going to cut it here.

0:44.0

We're just both squirming, and so what's going on is that these students

0:50.0

in the documentary who we are now identifying with because we know a little bit of their stories

0:55.0

are being, you know, they're being given intrusive eye contact

1:00.0

and kind of hugs and knowing gazes by just random guys that have been invited into the studio

1:10.0

to watch them come in doing the S-factor walk most of them.

1:16.0

And there's a lot of tears, there's a lot of what seems to be integration

1:24.0

and reconciliation, but it's very abstract because it's set up

1:29.0

as, you know, I've brought masculine energy into the room,

1:33.0

and there are three dudes.

1:35.0

They're just got, they're guys sitting on five chairs.

1:38.0

They're just guys.

1:39.0

They look like they're kind of, you know, new AG Nice,

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