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Conspirituality

Bonus Sample: Antifascist Christianity: Black Jesus (Pt. 2)

Conspirituality

Derek Beres, Matthew Remski, Julian Walker

Spirituality, Social Sciences, Religion & Spirituality, Science, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.2 • 2K Ratings

🗓️ 13 October 2025

⏱️ 5 minutes

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Summary

Full episode on Patreon Part 2 moves from Christofascist spectacle to the “mushy middle” of liberal Christianity—why it so often blesses order over justice and falters when fascism rises. Drawing on MLK’s Letter from Birmingham Jail, Reggie Williams’s Bonhoeffer’s Black Jesus, and lived experience inside white urban churches, he traces how bureaucratic piety, respectability politics, and spiritual bypassing drain the Gospel of conduct and courage—what Bonhoeffer called a “funeral wreath” laid on the culture. How do institutions become procedurally compassionate yet politically inert? Matthew weaves in memories of global South Christian art, Denys Arcand’s Jesus of Montréal, and the everyday service-industry grind of parish life to show how care without solidarity becomes maintenance—while Black Jesus points to co-suffering, mutual aid, and material resistance. Touching grass means moving from abstraction to accompaniment and from decorum to defense. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey everybody. This bonus is called Anti-Fascist Christianity, Black Jesus Part 2. Part 1 dropped on our main feed this past Saturday. I am Matthew Remski, and this is Conspiratuality, where we investigate the intersections of conspiracy theories and spiritual influence to uncover cults, pseudoscience,

0:21.4

and authoritarian extremism. You can follow myself, Derek and Julian, on Blue Sky. The pod is on

0:27.6

Instagram and threads under its own handle. And you can support our Patreon. If you're listening

0:33.8

to this, you're probably already doing that. Thank you so much. You can also catch me on

0:38.1

TikTok at Anti-Fascist Dad, and my new independent podcast is out now under the same name,

0:45.4

Anti-Fascist Dad. So this is the third of a number of two-part series I've been doing on

0:52.7

anti-fascist Christianity. It all goes into the

0:56.1

woodshed series where I collect a bunch of stories that I hope are useful and resourceful. And in

1:04.3

Saturday's episode, I began with the image of Bonhofer arriving in New York, carrying the European vision of white Jesus,

1:13.8

tied to empire and order, but leaving transformed by his encounter with Harlem churches

1:20.8

and the liberatory presence of Black Jesus rooted in solidarity with the oppressed.

1:26.7

And I connected Bonhofer's white Jesus to the spectacle

1:30.1

of Charlie Kirk's recent stadium memorial, and its focus on national triumphalism, and its use

1:39.1

of a theology that reassures the powerful that everything has already accomplished, which relieves them of the

1:45.6

burden of justice, even as systems of oppression continue outside the arena.

1:52.0

And I drew on Reggie Williams, Bonhoeffer's Black Jesus, on Cedric Robinson's black

1:58.9

Marxism and Janelle Hope and Bill Mullins, the Black

2:02.0

anti-fascist tradition, to argue that white Jesus was born from colonialism and racial capitalism,

2:10.4

while Black Jesus emerges from solidarity with suffering.

2:15.6

And for me, the contrast between the triumphalist mighty fortress hymns of the

2:21.9

Lutheran tradition and the trembling grief of Were You There really captured Bonhoeffer's turn

2:28.6

towards a faith that was grounded in vulnerability and anti-fascist hope.

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