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🗓️ 13 October 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Hey everybody. This bonus is called Anti-Fascist Christianity, Black Jesus Part 2. Part 1 dropped on our main feed this past Saturday. I am Matthew Remski, and this is Conspiratuality, where we investigate the intersections of conspiracy theories and spiritual influence to uncover cults, pseudoscience, |
| 0:21.4 | and authoritarian extremism. You can follow myself, Derek and Julian, on Blue Sky. The pod is on |
| 0:27.6 | Instagram and threads under its own handle. And you can support our Patreon. If you're listening |
| 0:33.8 | to this, you're probably already doing that. Thank you so much. You can also catch me on |
| 0:38.1 | TikTok at Anti-Fascist Dad, and my new independent podcast is out now under the same name, |
| 0:45.4 | Anti-Fascist Dad. So this is the third of a number of two-part series I've been doing on |
| 0:52.7 | anti-fascist Christianity. It all goes into the |
| 0:56.1 | woodshed series where I collect a bunch of stories that I hope are useful and resourceful. And in |
| 1:04.3 | Saturday's episode, I began with the image of Bonhofer arriving in New York, carrying the European vision of white Jesus, |
| 1:13.8 | tied to empire and order, but leaving transformed by his encounter with Harlem churches |
| 1:20.8 | and the liberatory presence of Black Jesus rooted in solidarity with the oppressed. |
| 1:26.7 | And I connected Bonhofer's white Jesus to the spectacle |
| 1:30.1 | of Charlie Kirk's recent stadium memorial, and its focus on national triumphalism, and its use |
| 1:39.1 | of a theology that reassures the powerful that everything has already accomplished, which relieves them of the |
| 1:45.6 | burden of justice, even as systems of oppression continue outside the arena. |
| 1:52.0 | And I drew on Reggie Williams, Bonhoeffer's Black Jesus, on Cedric Robinson's black |
| 1:58.9 | Marxism and Janelle Hope and Bill Mullins, the Black |
| 2:02.0 | anti-fascist tradition, to argue that white Jesus was born from colonialism and racial capitalism, |
| 2:10.4 | while Black Jesus emerges from solidarity with suffering. |
| 2:15.6 | And for me, the contrast between the triumphalist mighty fortress hymns of the |
| 2:21.9 | Lutheran tradition and the trembling grief of Were You There really captured Bonhoeffer's turn |
| 2:28.6 | towards a faith that was grounded in vulnerability and anti-fascist hope. |
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