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know what all the fuss is about. I think that maybe this is why calling it women's studies might not help this case

right but I think there is a case to be made that brings men into conversations that they

wouldn't normally put themselves into.

Because when I took a woman studies class, while yes we did talk about women's rights and history and you know

important people and all of the political things that go into it, we also discuss men a lot.

Like they were alongside in almost every category that we discuss because they're part of the equation.

And they also are oppressed by a gendered system because in order to have oppression on one hand you need to have something else to control the other population.

I think earlier, Jay, when you said that people can identify the problem easier than they can come up the solution.

I also think coinciding with that is you can both be the oppressor and still

negatively impacted by the system. Absolutely. You can belong to a community that benefits and by and large still feel very much at the bottom of that,

which I think, you know, when we talk about Martin Luther King Jr and when it became super dangerous was when he brought in white working people to the conversation because that broadens the pull of people who are being impacted.

So I think that while systems can be very complex to talk about, a conversation about both how

boys and girls operate under a patriarchal society and the negative

sides of those. That's not a hard conversation to have. Like you can start that pretty early,

which would bring me to one of my first

solutions which is we have to like definitely put an emphasis on social emotional

learning because while yes parents should be able to help their children talk

about feelings more and implement that no matter what the gender of the child is I

think that our education system does have a role in that and I think placing a value on knowing

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