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Best of the Left - Leftist Perspectives on Progressive Politics, News, Culture, Economics and Democracy

Bonus Sample #257 The Fascist Hobbit and the Conservatism of Storytelling

Best of the Left - Leftist Perspectives on Progressive Politics, News, Culture, Economics and Democracy

Jay Tomlinson

Politics, News Commentary, News

4.53.4K Ratings

🗓️ 25 October 2022

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

Original Air Date: 10-12-22

Today, I am talking with Amanda, Deon and Erin. We discuss:

- The new fascist party running Italy and their love of Lord of the Rings

- "The Jay Principle" which has something to do with people liking stories they shouldn't

- How to write progressive stories

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References:

Hobbits and the Hard Right: How Fantasy Inspires Italy’s Potential New Leader

Why liberals love "Downton Abbey" - Salon

Downton Abbey–Why We Love Rich Aristocrats

"50 Fantasy & Science Fiction Works That Socialists Should Read" by China Miéville

Tolkien and race

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0:00.0

Welcome to this episode of the award-winning Best of a Left Podcast.

0:10.0

This is a sample of our recent bonus episode every couple of weeks or so, our crew of researchers,

0:15.6

Amanda and myself get together for a roundtable discussion.

0:19.6

So here's a few minutes for free so you can see what all the fuss is about.

0:28.2

Which brings me to this idea that I've been kicking around that I still don't think I

0:33.4

have it fully mapped out myself, but come with me on a little bit of a trip.

0:39.3

Let's talk about Downton Abbey and how liberals who watch PBS love a show about aristocracy

0:50.2

and extreme wealth inequality.

0:53.0

It doesn't seem like that would be our bag, but like that show and others like it attract

1:03.9

audiences that on the surface I think should be surprising.

1:09.2

I mean the guy who made Downton Abbey is like very...

1:12.6

I mean he's definitely...

1:14.4

He sounds like a monarchist definitely has talked about that.

1:19.2

Married to a lady in waiting.

1:21.6

Oh, right.

1:24.6

And there are specific examples that can sort of help explain how a show about a horrible

1:32.6

system that no American should ever sign on for the way the show sort of makes itself

1:40.1

palatable.

1:41.5

And so there's an article I think Salon wrote about this years and years ago and they

1:47.3

talked about how the way the class system is talked about, they really emphasize how

1:55.9

not just livelihood but also dignity is sort of obtained or received by the servants by

2:06.7

doing their jobs.

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