Welcome to this episode of the award-winning Best of a LeftPodcast.

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Amanda and myself get together for a roundtable discussion.

So here's a few minutes for free so you can see what all the fuss is about.

We have talked about this recently.

I think it was in David Grabers, the dawn of everything, where there was a debate between

a Native American and a French colonist in the 1600s.

I want to say, debating whose society was better and made more sense.

And the Frenchman's argument was that, of course, European society was better because

we have all these structures that help keep society moving, help keep people doing good,

police and courts and jails and all those sorts of things.

And the Native guy's response was, well, of course, you only need all those systems to

keep people in line because you have all these other systems like money that encourage

people to act badly.

And we don't have that.

So we don't have people acting nearly as badly as you do.

And therefore, we don't need police and courts and jails.

So going back to David Graber, but this is from a different book.

I also read debt to the first 5,000 years.

And he highlights a couple of stories that sort of similarly break down differences in

culture.

So he starts this particular section talking about Nietzsche and Nietzsche's describing

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