Hi History Makers, Eric here. A few months ago we launched Making Gay History's Patreon

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This is Eric Marcus and I have some very sad news to share.

Kayla Hoosen, one of the towering figures of the LGBTQ civil rights movement,

died yesterday, May 26th, 2021. She was 91 years old.

Kay was a journalist who captured key moments of the 1960s and 70s movement on film.

And along with her life partner Barbara Giddings helped change the course of our history.

Over two visits in the spring and winter of 1989, I interviewed Barbara and Kay for five hours

in their cozy living room in Philadelphia. And over the years, Kay became a dear friend and mentor

to me. Barbara first found her way into the movement in the mid-1950s and Kay found Barbara in 1961.

Together, they devoted most of their lives to the cause. Making gay history listeners met Kay

and Barbara for the first time in the fall of 2016 in our debut season.

I wanted to share that interview with you again to hear Barbara and Kay finishing each other

sentences, a pair of happy warriors, which is exactly how I choose to remember them both.

The interview is Barbara Giddings and Kay Tobin La Hoosen. One day May 17th, 1989 at the home of

Barbara and Kay in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Interviewer is Eric Marcus, tape one, side one.

Kay. Kay. I need some coffee.

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