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For The Love With Jen Hatmaker Podcast

[BONUS] Quarantine Queens Eps 7: Kate Bowler – You Can Be Afraid & Faithful

For The Love With Jen Hatmaker Podcast

Jen Hatmaker

Relationships, Society & Culture

4.66.3K Ratings

🗓️ 13 April 2020

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

What do you do when you believe God is good, that He has a plans to give us hope and a future, and yet the reality of what we’re living is . . . well, it’s hard. And sad. So how do we reconcile having hard feelings and holding onto faith? Times like these call for experts who’ve walked hard paths before, and we have that leader in the incredible Kate Bowler, an associate professor at Duke Divinity School and NYT bestselling author of Everything Happens for a Reason: And Other Lies I’ve Loved. After Kate walked through a Stage IV cancer diagnosis at 35 years old, she’s gained some hard-earned wisdom that she she shares abundantly, like how to manage our moments when we can’t plan for the future (spoiler alert: look for signs of hope in the in-between space). Plus, Kate reminds us that the language of the Christian faith isn’t always self-improvement—there’s a purpose to our pain, and it’s something we need to talk about, because we can be scared and still be faithful. Let’s be honest: we’re living through a really hard season. But even right now, God is still here with us.

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0:00.0

Hey everybody, welcome to our special edition quarantine queens series of The For the

0:14.2

Love Podcast.

0:16.2

We looked at each other and went, what can we do?

0:20.0

Like, what do we have that we can use to serve our community right now?

0:25.5

And we were like, oh my gosh, we can podcast.

0:28.3

Plus, all these guests are sitting at home and we could probably get them to say yes to

0:33.3

come on and lead us well and they did.

0:36.1

So we have been releasing two bonus episodes a week in addition to our incredible ordinary

0:42.2

For The Love Podcast series, which is fierce free and full of fire, which is absolutely

0:47.6

scalding hot right now.

0:50.1

This bonus series is for us right now living in these bizarre times.

0:54.1

You know what?

0:55.1

The team and I were talking, we're like, we need to talk to someone who has been through

1:00.5

a really hard thing already.

1:02.3

They have hard fought lessons in their hands to share.

1:06.2

Like we need to speak to somebody who has been to the wilderness and has survived and

1:09.7

have come back to tell the tale and lead us well.

1:15.1

And I'm telling you, I had one person on my list that I wanted to speak to us as a spiritual

1:22.0

leader as someone who could pastor us through this moment because I know her and I know her

1:27.5

story and I know she is a faithful witness to the work required right now.

1:34.1

And so if you do not already know Kate Boller, it is my joy to introduce her to you today.

1:41.7

Kate, she's just a real special thing.

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