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WHAT WENT WRONG

[Bonus Preview] Avatar: Fire and Ash Review

WHAT WENT WRONG

Sad Boom Media

Flop, Film, Film History, Blockbuster, Acting, Disaster, History, Tv & Film, Movie, Directing, Hollywood

4.84.2K Ratings

🗓️ 26 December 2025

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

Lizzie and Chris candidly reflect on James Cameron's newest tale from Pandora, Avatar: Fire and Ash. Join us for a discussion that covers story vs. special FX, the evolution and current status of the saga, whether even the great Sigourney Weaver can pull off being an underage alien, and much more.


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0:00.0

Hello and welcome back to another bonus episode of what went wrong, your favorite podcast,

0:14.7

full stop that just so happens to be about movies, and how it's nearly impossible to make them,

0:19.2

let alone a good one, let alone a three-hour

0:22.9

and 15-minute return to the moon of Pandora. All that glitters is bioluminescent. Lizzie, as always,

0:32.6

I am Chris Winterbauer, joined by my co-host, Lizzie Bassett, Lizzie, how are you doing this afternoon?

0:38.6

I'm excited to talk about this. We literally just saw it. We all went and saw it in theaters

0:43.2

together. Chris, what are we doing here? Are we doing all spoilies, no spoilies? What's the plan?

0:50.0

So the way that we like to break these reviews down is to start with spoiler-free thoughts.

0:55.8

We'll do that for a few minutes. We'll then give a little bit of information on the film.

0:59.5

And then about 15 minutes or 20 minutes in, we will announce it. We will jump into our spoiler-filled

1:05.7

thoughts about this film, of which I am sure Lizzie especially has many based on the size as I was

1:15.0

sitting next to her during this movie. I think you have many. Chris was so still for long

1:19.8

portions of this that I thought maybe he was asleep and he had 3D glasses on. So I really checked a

1:24.5

couple times. And I just want you all to know, the only time Chris made any kind of reaction was a giggle when Giovanni or B.C. walked out in shorts. That was it. He didn't walk out in shorts. He walked out with no pants on. And I thought maybe he was in boxers. He was in boxers. And I thought maybe he had just walked on to set that way, and James

1:44.7

said, we got to shoot it, let's go.

1:46.5

And they just forgot to add digital pants later.

1:48.7

All right, well, let's dive into our spoiler-free thoughts.

1:51.6

So, Avatar, Fire, and Ash, the sequel to Avatar, The Way of Water, the sequel to Avatar,

1:57.4

just Avatar.

1:58.6

Lizzie, remind folks of the strong feelings that the first film invoked in you,

2:03.9

and then tell us maybe a little bit about what you thought of the second film briefly, and then the third film.

2:10.4

I have the same problem with all the movies, which is that it feels like an extremely convoluted and unoriginal story, even though it looks very beautiful.

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