Radio. Radio X. Ellis James and John Robbins.

Hello everyone. Welcome to this special bonus podcast in tribute to our erstwhile producer, father, founder, idol and friend Dave Masterman.

Rock. Rock. Yeah. Anchor. Anchor in the stormy seas that are commercial indie digital radio.

Yes, very stormy seas at times. We're recording this intro in the very studio where we recorded the pilot.

Where Dave lost his virginity. Where we actually recorded our first pilot with Dave.

Dave is actually here with us because we're recording this intro after our final show before boozing on the roof.

Which again, as we've said in the other show, isn't as bad as it sounds.

We're allowed up there.

Yeah, and it's a really beautiful view of London. This is where we recorded the pilot of the show three and a half

years ago and that's when we were sort of, we came up with sacred cow. We did two, didn't

me? Textual healing. I seem to remember that the first one didn't go very well, and we had a second go at it. Did we do to put your mic up, Dave? You did do too. Actually, I wasn't with you for the pilots, though, which...

Was it Neil? Was it producing Neil?

It was actually Neil for the first show, and then I met you once you got the gig.

Yeah, because we knew Neil.

Is that true?

Yeah, we knew Neil, or I certainly did through Josh's show. You must have done Josh's show. Yeah. I went on it once.

I was always a bit jealous.

Everybody else got to go on it.

But no. But no, when we met in the mitre,

yes. That was after we'd done the pilot.

Yes. We'd already been given the show by that stage.

Oh, sorry. I've misrememberised.

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