Bonus Podcast: John Lear (2012 Interview)

Podcast UFO

Host: Martin Willis

Astronomy, Society & Culture, Science

4.4 • 567 Ratings

🗓️ 27 April 2026

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

From the Archives: (2012) Interview with the late John Lear, (1942-2022) ~ In this archival episode of Podcast UFO, Martin Willis sits down with legendary aviator and controversial UFO figure John Lear for a candid and wide-ranging conversation. John Lear, son of William Lear and a record-holding pilot with extensive experience flying worldwide, shares how his interest in UFOs began with early sightings and grew through decades of aviation and firsthand experiences. Highlights from this interview include: Lear’s early UFO encounters, including a childhood sighting and a mysterious object observed while piloting a Learjet at high altitude His time flying CIA-related missions in Southeast Asia and other regions Inside stories about Bob Lazar, including how they met and Lear’s perspective on Lazar’s claims about Groom Lake and S-4 A detailed account of the famous 1989 desert observation of a disc-shaped craft during a reported test flight Personal reflections on Paul Bennewitz and the controversies surrounding disinformation and the Dulce base narrative Discussion of the so-called “Krill memo” and early attempts to document alleged alien research Lear offers his unfiltered opinions on some of the most debated figures and cases in UFO history, providing insight into a period when many of these stories first gained traction. This is a short but compelling segment that captures the mindset and claims of one of ufology’s most talked-about personalities.

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1:54.2	Hello, everyone. This is Martin Willis.
1:56.5	This is a recording I did with John Lear. I did it the day after his 70th birthday.
2:01.8	That was December 4th, 2012.
2:06.1	Then I posted the show on the 23rd of December that year,
2:10.7	and you'll see my reference to the Mayan calendar
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