Welcome to the podcast Think Bivocally. I'm your host Sean McDowell, professor of apologetics at

Talbot School of Theology, Biola University. Today we bring to a bonus episode that was a radio debate I had recently with an online

skeptic a youtuber who is very popular and has a lot of followers we're invited on to

the radio show unbelievable hosted by Justin Briarley who we've actually had in the show recently as a guest

To discuss the question of whether or not the apostles died as martyrs. What are the sources show and is this good evidence for the

resurrection? No surprise I say yes and also no surprise the skeptic says no. I

think you will really enjoy this conversation find it interesting but also

lively and of course if you do we hope you'll consider sharing it with a friend.

So are martyred apostles good evidence for the resurrection? That's our question on today's show.

Would the disciples of Jesus have been willing to suffer and die for something they knew to be false?

It's often an argument used to defend the resurrection. Well,

Sean McDowell wanted to find out what the scholarly evidence actually was for that claim

and so he did a PhD and wrote a book on the subject, which is the obvious thing you do if you were

looking into something isn't it but um Sean is an associate professor of

Christian apologetics at Puyola University he's the author of several books

including the one I'm talking about the fate of the

apostles based on his PhD thesis on the Martyrum accounts of the apostles. Well

recently a video he posted on the subject was critiqued by

atheist utuber pologia aka Paul Ens, who also joins me on the show today.

Paul has been critical of Sean's claims that there are reliable martyrdom stories of the Apostles,

or indeed that they qualify necessarily as martyrs.

So we'll be looking at what we know about the deaths of the Apostles, why they died and whether

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