Welcome to a bonus episode of the Life Church podcast.

Today, you'll hear a sit-down interview with Pastor Craig Rochelle about his new book

an upcoming message series, Winning the War in Your Mind.

This special episode is from Life Church's newest spiritual growth podcast for Life Groups,

You've Heard It Said.

Today's episode kicks off a four-part mini-series discussing Pastor Craig's newest book in message series.

The other three episodes will be available exclusively on the You've Heard It Said podcast.

So, you and your Life Group can subscribe, listen to the episodes, then use the Conversation Guide

to talk it over each week of the series.

You can find it all by going to www.life.church-yh-s.

Now, onto the show.

Welcome to the You've Heard It Said podcast.

This is Ali.

And this is Jason.

And today, we have a very special bonus episode with our senior pastor Craig Rochelle.

And Ali got to interview him, which is also very special.

Yes.

And I knew I shouldn't have been, but I was so nervous to interview him because he's one of my actual heroes.

Right.

And so I got all in my head about how I can mess it up and all of that.

Which is a bummer for you because Pastor Craig is awesome to talk to.

But also, it's kind of like spot on because what you're talking about is this brand new book,

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