[BONUS] Overton Windows Episode 1: Israel and Palestine

Very Bad Wizards

Tamler Sommers & David Pizarro

Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.8 • 3K Ratings

🗓️ 18 July 2023

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

A new mini-series with Tamler Sommers and Robert Wright on the range of politically acceptable discourse for a given topic and how this “Overton window” changes over time.

This episode is available for free for everyone, the remaining episodes will appear at the Very Bad Wizards Patreon and Robert Wright’s Nonzero Newsletter on Substack.

00:33 What is this new Overton Windows series about?

10:05 Tamler’s connections to Israel and Bob’s experiences there

19:22 What does Zionism mean in practice?

27:35 The shifting Overton window around Israel/Palestine

45:35 The heavy-handed response to the BDS movement

57:13 What the Israel/Palestine discourse says about Overton windows

1:02:09 So where should the boundaries be set

Transcript

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0:00.0	a
0:30.0	Welcome to a new podcast mini series, the Overton window. I'm Tamler Summers, and I'm
0:40.8	here with a hero of mine. But one of the reasons I got into philosophy in the first place,
0:46.6	Robert Wright.
0:47.6	Oh, it's so nice to be to say that. Well, I'm, I'm a flat at honored and humbled, but
0:52.4	right. I think we should begin this with a dispute. Now, you said the name of the series
0:55.3	is the Overton window. I thought we were going to call it Overton windows.
0:58.7	We are. Yes. That was my mistake. So I won first round. It's good. I like the way
1:04.4	this is heading crossfire kind of style. Yeah. So that's the first episode, folks. Thanks
1:10.2	for tuning in over 10 windows. That's way better. Also. So you may be hearing this on the
1:15.8	non zero podcast feed. You may be hearing it on Tamler's very bad wizards feed going
1:21.5	forward. You will be able to get these. Yeah, paid subscription to the non zero newsletter
1:27.0	will get this for you. The first first edition is like totally, totally free and public in
1:31.6	it. And it's on two, two, two feeds. Yeah. And for us, it'll be on our the very bad
1:35.9	wizards Patreon, very bad wizards for the Robert Wright listeners is a podcast that I do
1:41.7	with David Pizarro. But so this over to window thing. What is it? What is it? It's broadly
1:48.9	speaking, I guess you could say kind of the range of acceptable opinions and utterances
1:56.0	in the mainstream. But strictly speaking, it's confined to the realm of policy, right?
2:01.7	That's where the concept originates in in describing policy discourse. The term was
2:08.9	invented by someone named Joseph over 10 who worked for I don't have the name in front
2:14.8	of me, but some kind of center right think tank. And he came up with this idea that whatever
2:22.1	your political movement that you want to start, its viability is going to depend on whether
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