Hello, current affairs listeners. This is contributing editor Eli Massey, and I am joined by

our editor-in-chief, Nathan Jay Robinson. Hello, Nathan. Hello, Eli. And today we are very

excited because we have two really special guests to discuss their new book, O'Cupney Tale,

which is out October 5th. It is a terrific children's book, O'Cupney Tale, which is out October 5th.

It is a terrific children's book, wonderfully illustrated, a lot of fun, good, solid politics

without being heavy-handed.

We are joined by the writer Jacob Kramer.

Hello, Jacob.

Hello.

And we are also joined by K-Fi Steele, who is the illustrator. Hello, K-Fi.

Hi.

So let's start for our listeners. Can you tell us what this book is about?

Oh, copy-tail is the sequel to our first book, which is called Noodle Fent.

And to describe a copy-tail, it's kind of good to give a little background.

In the first book, there's this wonderful character named Noodlephent, who's an elephant,

who loves noodles.

But she gets in a lot of trouble with the kangaroos who run her town, who are extremely bossy.

And these bossy people, these animals, make all the laws in the town, and they decide who's

allowed to do what. And eventually they they decide who's allowed to do what.

And eventually they decide about who's allowed to eat noodles, only kangaroo.

And this inspires Noodle Fitner friends to decide whether they want to obey that law,

and eventually they decide to disobey it quite creatively, and they get in a lot of trouble.

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