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Well, a boy's best friend is his mother.

No one said being a parent would be easy, but now you don't have to go through it alone.

Actress and mother of two, Jamie Lynn Sigler, has teamed up with musician and stay-at-home mother-of-two, Jenna Paris, to create a safe place where you can confess your worst mommy sins and still feel like you're killing the mommy game.

This is Mama Said with Jamie and Jenna.

Our guest today, first, he's our friend, a serial tech entrepreneur.

His name is Chris Ovitz, and we have Dr. Colleen Russo Johnson.

She is a developmental psychologist with an expertise in children's media and technology.

I mean, we need her more than ever.

But they, together with a group of wonderful humans, have brought to the world the app OK Play.

It's a guide to building children's empathy, kindness, and creativity.

They are here to tell us all about it.

We can't wait to learn about it and use it.

So please welcome to the show, Chris and Dr. Colleen Russo Johnson.

Thank you.

Thanks, Jamie.

Hi, guys. Well, first and foremost, congratulations on the launch of the app.

Was this something you guys were planning pre-COVID? I mean, how long does it take to develop something like this?

That's a great question.

It was definitely pre-COVID.

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