Okay guys, this is big. It's our bonus episode. We said we were gonna have not only is it a bonus episode to bonus episode with Nancy.

Great. Sorry you can't make me. She is very sassy. You have a lot to expect. I'm caught off guard, but we talk about Michelle Carter who we covered on Sunday's episode.

That's right. And she has a lot of interesting things to say that I was kind of surprised about. Yeah, her answers here. I love the conversation.

By the way, she was her true Nancy Gray itself, as you said. Yeah, but it was a conversation. And I think.

Yes, it's sassy, but we love her. Yeah, and this is actually part of our longer interview. We had released the first part of this I think like two weeks ago.

So we had her here. We wanted to get her picker brain about everything. Yeah. And by the way, Nancy Grace is currently on oxygen with injustice, which airs on Saturdays, which I think you guys will definitely want to watch.

So without further ado, here's what Nancy Grace had to say about Michelle Carter. Yeah. All right. So let's get into it. Yeah, we wanted to talk to you about a specific case.

You know, you were just talking a little bit about suicide. And you know, we all know about the Michelle Carter scenario, which is not talking about suicide.

I was talking about a defense attorney. Yes, no, I know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, of course, exactly.

Let go ahead. Yes. No, I know. That's exactly what I say. But in July of 2014, just as a little background information for those of you guys listening, 18-year-old Conrad Roy committed suicide in his car in a parking lot in Fairhaven, Massachusetts.

Police then discovered that Conrad 17-year-old girlfriend, Michelle Carter, had encouraged him to kill himself over a series of tax messages. So I think Nancy, you know, we wanted to hear what you thought.

I thought it was a truck.

Listen, truck car. I guess that is a good vehicle. Motor vehicle with four tires on it. Carb and an oxide poisoning.

Tell us, I mean, I know you've read the tax messages probably more times than anyone here combined. What do you think about her being sentenced and how do you feel about the 15 month sentence for involuntary manslaughter?

I do not think the sentence was harsh enough. And I'm pretty sure Conrad Roy's family agrees with me. He was a very young 18, extremely sensitive, very not self assured.

And he fell hard for this girl. And she led him and others to believe that was her boyfriend. I mean, her text consists of things like just do it. Do it now.

Yeah.

Your family will be fine. Yes, they'll miss you for a while, but they'll get over it. Just do it. Do it now, babe.

Even going so far as to help him research, getting a generator and explaining how to make it work so we could kill himself over a period of time.

Text messages like, yeah, you said you were doing it tonight, but you're not again. I mean, on and on and on thousands of emails, phone calls and texts until this guy finally does it.

Well, as a mom yourself, how do you? It's hard for me to grasp why you are not bringing John David Ellucian to this. No, no, no, no, no, I'm sitting down this long.

No, I'm not at all, but I'm curious what your perspective is. It sounds like you are about her because it's like what brings someone at her age to be so willing to have those kind of conversations with someone.

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