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Dear Therapists with Lori Gottlieb and Guy Winch

BONUS: More Happier: Talking Romance Writing with Stacey Abrams and Lori Gottlieb

Dear Therapists with Lori Gottlieb and Guy Winch

iHeartPodcasts

Education, Society & Culture, Self-improvement

4.82.4K Ratings

🗓️ 23 August 2025

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

In this Roundtable discussion, we explore the role of romance in fiction and real life. Author and political leader Stacey Abrams explains how she weaves it into her suspense novels by focusing on authentic human connection, while therapist Lori Gottlieb brings her perspective on love off the page. Together, we look at how romance is imagined, experienced, and sustained today.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:04.3

This special episode, The Romance Roundtable, is brought to you exclusively by Audible.

0:10.6

Do you love a good love story?

0:12.9

The Audible Romance Collection has audiobooks that will satisfy every side of you.

0:18.0

You may love a story about a dalliance with a duke or perhaps a sexy billionaire

0:22.3

set in the big city or at the hockey rink or in another realm with dragons. Here modern rom-coms

0:29.4

from authors like Lily Chu, Romanticy series from Sarah J. Moss and Rebecca Yarrow's, regency favorites

0:35.8

like the new audible original Pride and Prejudice, plus the where we get happier.

1:05.4

Today's episode is a special edition in our roundtable conversation series, and the topic

1:10.7

today is romance. Because for so many

1:14.0

of us, romance is an important aspect of a happier life, so it's a great subject for a roundtable

1:19.3

discussion. The three of us are here today to talk it over. I'm Gretchen Rubin, a writer who studies

1:25.2

happiness and human nature, and I'm host of the Happier

1:27.8

with Gretchen Rubin podcast.

1:29.4

And here today are my two terrific guests.

1:32.2

First, Stacey Abrams.

1:34.2

Stacey S. Stacey Abrams is a best-selling author whose romance novels written under the pen name

1:39.8

Selena Montgomery.

1:40.9

I love the idea of having a pen name.

1:42.6

Explores themes of passion, justice,

1:44.6

identity, and power. Her latest book, Coded Justice, is a legal thriller that takes on

1:49.5

questions of technology, ethics, and accountability with romance woven in, too. You may also know

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