Hey, everyone, Darren Karp and John Thrasher from shaken and desksaken.

Saken?

Forsaken.

And disturbed?

Shaken and disturbed.

We're already off to a good start.

Listen, we are sort of breaking news with a news conference that John and I are just literally

just finished watching the Menendez family press conference, which was in downtown Los Angeles

on Wednesday, October

16th at 1 p.m. Now, I think, you know, we kind of knew that this sentencing was going to be a lot

of their family members there. This was a big kind of show of support for Lyle and Eric. Everyone

was kind of curious to see who was going to show up to where there were some old family

members you'd kind of think you wouldn't make the family trapes in front of the public if it was

going to be bad news that just seems a little a little wild but the lawyer spoke family member spoke

um i'm sure there's going to be more on it. Rosie O'Donnell has obviously been a big advocate

for all of this. My girl. And I just just up top, I thought it was pretty interesting that sort of like

this overall thing about obviously with the doc coming out with Ryan Murphy's serious monsters.

As you kind of said, each speaker made sure to emphasize that this isn't political, despite

it being election season. Yeah. And it really isn emphasize that this isn't political despite it being

election season. Yeah. This and it really isn't. I don't find that it's like Democrats should think that he should be free and Republicans think he should be behind bars. It's a mixed bag of just morality, I think, and what people are convinced of. In fact, I got into a little bit of a tete-to-tete with a guy yesterday and he's like, oh, you think

that Eric, like, those monsters should be free. And he was like, there was no abuse, this and that.

And I was like, okay, let's take your thing and take it at face value, right? I was like,

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