The most important thing, right, Kevin, is to overrule Roe v. Wade, which is in a terrible,

terrible decision that leaves America out there as an outlier, right, with North Korea and China.

Well, welcome to the Kevin Roberts Show. If you have been watching or listening or both,

thanks for doing that.

You're in for another great conversation. You may not yet realize if you've not tuned in for a while

that we've turned this show into entirely a conversation. And today, I get to have a conversation

with a great American patriot, someone you probably know, but just in case you don't. Brief introduction,

Mark Paletta, thanks for being here. You're a senior fellow at the Center for Renewing America

and also partner at Shear Jaffe law firm. And those of us who have the privilege of doing the

people's work here in Washington, D.C., know that you are someone we can count on to always tell

the truth to hit hard when

hitting hard is necessary and to do so while also keeping a smile in your face. So thanks for

joining me. Thanks coming. Thanks for having me. Yeah, we're going to cover a lot of ground. In fact,

you and I were having so much fun talking about what we were going to talk about. I said,

let's stop and just start

recording. I get wound up, yeah. No, it's a great compliment. You know, the teacher in me always says when I see passionate people, even reasonably passionate people on the other side, I've had to deal with apathetic students in classrooms so much that I just love seeing the lack of apathy, you know, the opposite of that, which is passionate.

I'm not apathetic.

I'm glad you have it.

We've got a lot to talk about. So let's cut to the chase. So obviously the news of this era of this month is this leak of a draft opinion at the Supreme Court. I'm happy to talk about the leak. I'm far more interested in a couple of things from you.

So you know, ground rules, you can talk about whatever you want.

But I'm interested in what you think about the potential opinion regarding the Dobbs case.

But also, this is very much in line with a lot of the work you've been doing over the years.

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