Well, Welcome to Gender Reveal, a podcast where we hopefully get a little bit closer to understanding

what the hell Gender is.

I'm your host and resident gender detective to Let's talk.

Hey everyone, hope you're all hanging in there. We've got something special for you today.

It is a little blast from the past, courtesy of my friends over at Gender Spiral.

Way back on March 31st, 2023, I was in my apartment staring deep into the voids of Venmo, trying to

coordinate thousands of donations for Trans Day of Snack when I was visited by my friend

Babette Thomas who is a genius audio maker fun fact about actually pitched in as a

gender reveal producer way back in the day before Ozzy joined the team.

Anyway, the Bet arrives, they have brought along their co-host Ali Beardsley,

who you might know from the world of live action D&D podcasts or shows. don't understand that world but they're in there they're

very popular I'm told so maybe you know them from that they've also brought along their

producer Ireland and beette's dog Baxter. So I took a quick break

from giving myself an eye strain injury in the Google Sheet trenches and I had a

very fun chat with Babette and Ali for their show Gender Spiral.

Gender Spiral launched last June.

They've released episodes with all sorts of fun, queer, and trans people,

including both multiple friends and alumni of gender reveal and multiple people

who refused to speak with us so like a beautiful mix really. Anyway I was

subscribed to gender spiral of course and as the months went on, I noticed that my chat with

Abette and Ali still had not been released. And I was like, well, you know, that makes sense.

I was so stressed and distracted that day.

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