Hey, everyone listening on the podcast. This is Ari with an exclusive message just to you guys out in podcast land.

We have a very special guest, and here is an audio hint of who it might be.

Yes, it is that Law and Order Sound. I, for one, love it. And actor Sam Waterston is my special guest. He played Jack McCoy and

defined, I think, for a lot of people, what a prosecutor should be. He joined me on the beat and we want

to play more from that interview. So you're going to hear even more than what aired on TV about what

he's doing now. He is one of the people out there who's so concerned about the direction of the

country, about the direction of the country,

about the Russia probe, and about Donald Trump potentially undermining the rule of law

that he's gotten involved in a pretty interesting effort to try to protect Bob Mueller.

So I got to talk to him about that, also ask him some larger questions about law and order,

and also about when prosecutors fall down, because while he played one that a lot of people

looked up to on law and order, we've been seeing around the country in Ferguson and Baltimore and

Chicago, a lot of important criticism of when prosecutors don't enforce the law equally, particularly

along racial lines. So that is the conversation. I hope you enjoy it. And as always, if you

leave us a comment or you rate us and give us five stars, if you think we deserve it, that helps us an awful lot.

We also read the comments for any requests you have for potential future podcast extras.

So let us know about that. And here is the interview.

I'm joined now by Sam Waterson. I got gotta tell you, full disclosure, big fan.

Thank you for being here and to get out of the way we have the sound.

We'll play it.

We had to do that.

Thank you. Thank you. That's a familiar tune.

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