Bonus: Karen Vaites and MKH on School Closings, Literacy, and Why Them Kids Ain't Learnin' Good
Getting Hammered®
Laissez-Faire Media
4.7 • 844 Ratings
🗓️ 12 December 2025
⏱️ 33 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of Getting Hammered in its new relaunched independent iteration. |
| 0:17.7 | And one thing we have always liked to do on getting hammered is talk about issues |
| 0:22.9 | that I think are actually really important and aren't getting enough attention. |
| 0:26.7 | And we don't always have time to do that in the day-to-day onslaught of news. |
| 0:32.2 | So I'm making time for it, and I'm bringing one of my favorite people to do it. |
| 0:36.0 | Karen Vaits is a literacy, curriculum, |
| 0:39.6 | education writer. She deals in trends and all the nitty gritty of how students actually learn. |
| 0:45.9 | And we really appreciate her for that. Karen Vates, welcome back to the show. You have been on once |
| 0:51.2 | before. This is my return tour in 2025. So what a way to take the year out. |
| 0:56.8 | We love to have you here. And I want to do a couple subjects with you. I want to talk about an |
| 1:03.3 | oldie but a goody because we're going to reminisce with these new studies coming out that |
| 1:07.6 | school closings were surprised bad for students. We're going to talk a little bit |
| 1:11.9 | about that. I also want to talk about the University of California, San Diego revelations about the |
| 1:18.4 | lack of college readiness in high school seniors and what that means about what we're actually |
| 1:26.0 | teaching in schools. |
| 1:31.3 | And last, I want to talk about the Southern Surge, |
| 1:35.3 | which you've written about, the Mississippi miracle, as some refer to it as, |
| 1:37.9 | and the new skepticism thereof. |
| 1:39.8 | And so we can get into that. |
| 1:40.9 | So I'm just setting the table. |
| 1:43.7 | There are three topics today that I want to get to. |
| 1:44.7 | Okay, so number one, the New York Times is out with a very helpful piece on an epidemiology journal study that finds |
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