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Getting Hammered®

Bonus: Karen Vaites and MKH on School Closings, Literacy, and Why Them Kids Ain't Learnin' Good

Getting Hammered®

Laissez-Faire Media

Politics, Society & Culture, News, News Commentary

4.7844 Ratings

🗓️ 12 December 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

We're excited to offer some interviews as bonus content on Getting Hammered with friends of the show on topics we care about. Today, Karen Vaites, an expert on literacy and curriculum, who really knows the nitty-gritty about how students learn, what works, and what we can replicate. We rant a bit about school closings and Randi Weingarten, then get on to the business of moving forward— the Mississippi Miracle, the Southern Surge, and whether skepticism is warranted. We are optimists. There is good news! We're trying to spread the word and help spread the strategy. That's where you come in. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of Getting Hammered in its new relaunched independent iteration.

0:17.7

And one thing we have always liked to do on getting hammered is talk about issues

0:22.9

that I think are actually really important and aren't getting enough attention.

0:26.7

And we don't always have time to do that in the day-to-day onslaught of news.

0:32.2

So I'm making time for it, and I'm bringing one of my favorite people to do it.

0:36.0

Karen Vaits is a literacy, curriculum,

0:39.6

education writer. She deals in trends and all the nitty gritty of how students actually learn.

0:45.9

And we really appreciate her for that. Karen Vates, welcome back to the show. You have been on once

0:51.2

before. This is my return tour in 2025. So what a way to take the year out.

0:56.8

We love to have you here. And I want to do a couple subjects with you. I want to talk about an

1:03.3

oldie but a goody because we're going to reminisce with these new studies coming out that

1:07.6

school closings were surprised bad for students. We're going to talk a little bit

1:11.9

about that. I also want to talk about the University of California, San Diego revelations about the

1:18.4

lack of college readiness in high school seniors and what that means about what we're actually

1:26.0

teaching in schools.

1:31.3

And last, I want to talk about the Southern Surge,

1:35.3

which you've written about, the Mississippi miracle, as some refer to it as,

1:37.9

and the new skepticism thereof.

1:39.8

And so we can get into that.

1:40.9

So I'm just setting the table.

1:43.7

There are three topics today that I want to get to.

1:44.7

Okay, so number one, the New York Times is out with a very helpful piece on an epidemiology journal study that finds

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