What's up everybody? Welcome to the show. It's the Apple Bits Excel and this is this is a special one. We're doing a little bonus episode a little extra. I kind of called it. This should be really more like a drop it like it's hot because if you haven't heard the news already, Johnny Ive is leaving Apple. He's going to be heading his own independent design company. He will also be working with Apple, I guess as a consultant, but they'll still have some crossover.

We'll see how deep that is, but I say, you know what, we

needed to talk about, I brought in a guest for the show, but before we do that, let's jump into

some business. I want to hear from you about what you think about this move, what it means for Apple's future.

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Let's talk about what you think about this move.

Johnny I've no longer at Apple, that's the end of an era.

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So let's get to more of that later in the show. I'm not going to hold this back anymore. We're going to jump right into it. Here is my talk with Joe about Johnny Ive leaving Apple.

All right, we had to bring someone who knows

this stuff kind of intimately like I do.

We worked at the Apple store back in the day together.

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