When I go into a Christian college to speak at a chapel service or just give an anti-porn

talk, I spend most of my time on the harms and just a little bit of time on a scripture

because they've heard the scripture.

And I'm all for beating that scripture home, but they need to hear about the harms.

That's where the real action is.

It's like, wait a minute.

This is hurting me.

Not just the sin of it, but other ways tell me more.

What's the audience respond like in those college gaping mouths open?

Really?

Yeah, because they haven't heard the research before because it's not something that's

getting out as much as it should.

Or they didn't realize that their porn use was leading to their sexual dysfunction, or

that their porn use was leading to their anxiety or to their depression.

So it's making those connections that can come up in those talks that I give that are

just wonderful to see.

I mean, it's not always easy to talk about pornography, but over the time, I've become

more readily able to talk about it because I see that there's so much good we can do in

educating people about its harms.

Do you think that I'm going to ask both you guys this?

Do you think that as men struggle and struggle, they repent, they struggle again, they repent,

they struggle.

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