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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

Bonus: JOHN CURTICE on politics after the pandemic

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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News, Government, Politics, Society & Culture

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 17 January 2021

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

In a special extra edition we ask, what will our politics be like after COVID (eventually) lifts? Will we find, like in 1945, that suddenly everything has changed? John Curtice, politics professor at Strathclyde University and senior fellow at think tank UK in a Changing Europe, tells Naomi Smith about the new economic consensus that could emerge from the post-Corona wreckage; how Labour should differentiate themselves from the Tories in a radically changed country; and whether education, welfare and the governance of the country itself could be transformed.  “Johnson is a meddler, an intervener, he wants to use the power of the state to get things done”  “Do not presume that COVID is going to change attitudes” “The arrival of Boris Johnson as Prime Minister marked the end of the neoliberal project in Britain” “There are plenty of centre-right voters in Scotland, they just don’t necessarily vote for the Conservatives” Presented by Naomi Smith. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producers Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:11.3

in the midst of World War II, a good liberal

1:15.6

and peer William Beveridge wrote a report that set out the major state

1:19.6

interventions needed to tackle five key social issues of poverty, idleness, squaller, ignorance, and disease.

1:27.0

It sold hundreds of thousands of copies during the war showing that the public had an appetite for a new and improved society.

1:35.2

Rationing and other state interventions during the war had arguably made voters more amenable

1:40.2

to a welfare state. Winston Churchill's instincts had been fairly pluralistic and coalitionist long before World War II,

1:48.0

and at the end of the war he hoped that the National Unity Government would hold a bit longer, but Labour wanted to call a general election, which they did and won, on a manifesto loaded with social reform.

1:59.0

The Tories realised that the tide of popular opinion had turned and in 1947 published their own industrial charter that promoted things like state ownership of industry and was even quite pro labour unions.

2:12.0

And thus it became orthodoxy from the 1950s through the 60s and into the 70s

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