Bonus Interview: Youth-Gender Clinician Dr. Erica Anderson
Blocked and Reported
Katie Herzog and Jesse Singal
4.6 • 4.1K Ratings
🗓️ 8 March 2021
⏱️ 96 minutes
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Summary
In a bonus interview episode, Jesse interviews Dr. Erica Anderson, a trans woman and Bay-Area-based gender clinician with years of experience working with transgender and gender nonconforming youth. The two discuss the white-hot debate over trans kids, including what comprehensive, compassionate assessment looks like in this field, and how clincians decide when a young person is ready for puberty blockers and/or hormones.
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Show notes/Links:
Jesse's long article in The Atlantic about youth gender dysphoria: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/07/when-a-child-says-shes-trans/561749/
Dr. Erica Anderson's website: https://www.drericaanderson.com/
Her Tretter Transgender Oral History Project video: https://umedia.lib.umn.edu/item/p16022coll97:194?q=%22Tretter+Transgender+Oral+History+Project+Phase+2%22&sort=title_sort+asc%2C+date_created_sort+desc
A Washington Post article quoting Dr. Anderson on the 'trendiness' aspect: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/when-kids-come-in-saying-they-are-transgender-or-no-gender-these-doctors-try-to-help/2018/01/19/f635e5fa-dac0-11e7-a841-2066faf731ef_story.html
Jesse's newsletter quoting her on the folly of laws banning youth transition, but also the importance of comprehensive, competent care for TGNC youth: https://jessesingal.substack.com/p/why-the-hard-age-caps-on-youth-gender
There's an insane amount of misinformatino on this subject: https://jessesingal.substack.com/p/a-response-to-foreign-policys-deeply
Lisa Littman's rapid onset gender dysphoria study: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0202330
The World Professional Association for Transgender Health Standards of Care: https://www.wpath.org/publications/soc
"In Which I Fail to Find You Any Gate-keeping" by Carey Callahan, a detransitioner: https://medium.com/@mariacatt42/in-which-i-fail-to-find-you-any-gate-keeping-622c447a835f
"Gender identity is hard but jumping to medical solutions is worse" by Callahan: https://www.economist.com/open-future/2019/12/03/gender-identity-is-hard-but-jumping-to-medical-solutions-is-worse
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, it's me, Jesse Single. Without my usual co-host, Katie Herzog. I feel... |
| 0:06.1 | Unencumbered. This is a special bonus episode of Blotten reported, |
| 0:10.5 | an interview with one of my favorite youth gender clinicians. I met Dr. Erica Anderson for lunch |
| 0:16.3 | in San Francisco when I was working on my story in the Atlantic about youth gender dysphoria back |
| 0:21.3 | in 2018. Dr. Anderson is her self-trans. She transitioned as an adult, despite what she viewed as |
| 0:27.6 | unfair and overly harsh gatekeeping and questioning. And in both my conversations with her and the |
| 0:32.7 | quote she's given to other journalists, she has always come across as a deeply thoughtful, |
| 0:37.2 | kind individual, one who's willing to stick her neck out a bit so as to communicate the full |
| 0:42.4 | complexity and nuance of what she does for a living. Since youth gender dysphoria has become such a |
| 0:47.8 | raging, culture war-infused controversy, and because mainstream coverage of it is almost |
| 0:52.8 | universally abysmal, I invited her on the podcast for a long, wide-ranging conversation about her |
| 0:58.8 | work and was quite grateful she accepted. Dr. Anderson is a veritable encyclopedia of knowledge |
| 1:04.5 | on the subject, given her years of clinical experience and given that she works with young people |
| 1:09.1 | ranging from just two or three all the way up to young adults. Here's a quick rundown of her |
| 1:14.3 | background before we get to the interview itself. Dr. Erica E. Anderson serves on the medical staff |
| 1:19.9 | of the University of California San Francisco Benioff Children's Hospital in behavioral pediatrics, |
| 1:26.9 | where she works in the child and adolescent gender clinic in pediatric endocrinology. |
| 1:32.0 | She also has a private consulting practice pertaining to LGBT issues. Dr. Anderson has a PhD in |
| 1:38.0 | clinical psychology, a master's in theology, and has spent four decades working in health psychology, |
| 1:44.1 | public health, healthcare management, and pediatrics. She is currently writing not one but two |
| 1:49.6 | books, a memoir, and a book on transgender sexuality. This brief intro only captures a tiny fraction |
| 1:56.4 | of what Dr. Anderson has done in her life. She's a fascinating person and I highly recommend you |
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