This is Jessica and you're listening to a special edition of the Friendly Atheist podcast.

I am joined here tonight, today, with my dad. Say hi, dad.

Hi, Jess.

How are you?

I'm good. How are you?

Oh, thank you for joining me here.

This is our first time in the home together for a year.

Yes, yes.

Happy to be here.

So, what are we doing here?

We are, I wanted to talk to you because I have heard a lot of anecdotal stories

of peers of mine who have parents who are always Republicans and then when Trump sort of became

the next big thing for the GOP, you and many people your age in your demographic sort of split,

you know, two-roads divergent in yellowwood, etc.

And you went from being a Republican for most of your adulthood to not only voting blue,

but volunteering in Joe Biden's campaign, it became something you genuinely cared about.

Whereas a lot of people and I know a lot of your peers are like into Donald Trump and likely

still are. So, I just kind of wanted to sort of pick your brain and sort of think about if somebody's

parent or somebody did get really into Donald Trump, do you think there's any talking points that

are useful and also why, you know, why did you come back to the Democratic Party when you

had kind of shunned it for a little bit? So, let's start at the beginning, I guess. So, you were born

49. You were a Democrat up until your 30s?

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