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Hello, you're listening to Podlitical BBC Scotland's Politics Podcast.

I'm Phil Sim, a reporter based at the Scottish Parliament, Aloha in Glasgow today,

and it is about 11 minutes past one on Wednesday the 18th of September.

And that date seems kind of familiar, doesn't it?

Because today is five years to the day on from the 2014 independence referendum.

So we thought we'd do a special extra podcast.

And to that end, today I have been joined by...

My name's David Linden. I'm the SNPMP for have been joined by my name is David london I'm the

SNPMP for Glasgow East and my name is Megan Gallicere and I'm a Scottish Conservative

councillor on Northlandishire Council I'm not a politician I'm Nick Hurdley at Westminster

political correspondent and I'm lindy Bues at holly And we've got Matt Cox, a producer in the box today,

and it's weird because I can actually see him,

which is weird. I'm usually in the cupboard in Hollywood, and he's waving.

That's nice.

I'm in the cupboard on my own today.

Feels very lonely.

I'm always in a cupboard. Hold on, hold on.

This isn't a big victim thing about you guys being chuffed in cover. You've seen those, I'll just, David and Megan,

there was an episode we did about eight months ago

where we had a guest on at Westminster.

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