Hello, everybody. I hope everyone had a nice Christmas. And before the new year, although you'll

probably be listening to this in the new year, Chris and I have some bonus trappo content for you today.

On today's episode, we are joined by three of the minds behind New York City Mayor Zeran

Mandani's successful propaganda apparatus. You probably saw

the videos that were credited to a great degree with his stunning upset victory in New York's

mayoral election. He is set to be inaugurated in just a few days. So before we bring in the

New Year, we wanted to talk to three of the people who helped run, like I said, this stunningly successful propaganda slash media arm of the Mondani campaign.

Joining Chris and I on the show are Andrew Epstein, Donald Boringstein, and Debbie Sazlo.

Guys, welcome.

Thank you.

The double steins, double steins, Warren and Ep.

Guys, like, obviously big upset victory.

I mean, it has like national ramifications.

This is technically, at least from my perspective, this is technically the first

dub I've ever racked up based on candidates I've loudly

supported using the platform of the show. And it is largely due to your fine efforts.

I want to talk about the videos, what makes them work, how you guys did them. But like,

the first question I want to ask all three of you is sort of a big picture question which is like

winning the election that grants you entrance to the game it's not like winning the election was the

game like you win the election and then you get to play the game now like the now the stakes are real

to a certain degree so I just want to ask all three of you like as we look at the dawn of

Zeron's first term in office what to you would be a successful first term for Zoran?

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