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This is Lindsay Smith-Rogers, producer of public health on call.

Today, a special episode on human rights in the conflict in Israel and Gaza. Len Rubenstein is a

distinguished professor of the practice and interim director of the Center for Public Health

and Human Rights at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. He speaks to Dr. Josh

Sharstein about the Geneva Conventions and the rules of war, what they require, when they apply, and whether they're being followed. Let's listen.

Len Rubinstein, thank you so much for joining me on public health on call to talk about human rights law and the conflict in Israel and Gaza.

Let's start with just maybe introducing you again to our audience.

We've had you on a couple times the last time to talk about attacks on the healthcare system in Ukraine.

But tell us a little bit about yourself.

I'm now interim director of the Center for Public Health and Human Rights at the Bloomberg School

and professor of the practice there.

And for the last 25 years, one of the major areas of my work has been the protection of

health care in war.

And I've done human rights reports when I was at Physicians for Human Rights and have engaged

in a lot of research on the problem.

I started a coalition to help mobilize the international community on protection of health care in war.

And a couple of years ago, I wrote a book on the subject,

a perilous medicine, the struggle to protect health care from the violence of war.

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