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Masters in Business

BONUS: How the Internet Got Worse with Cory Doctorow

Masters in Business

Bloomberg

Business, Investing, Entrepreneurship

4.42.2K Ratings

🗓️ 21 January 2026

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

On this special, bonus edition of Masters in Business, Barry speaks with Cory Doctorow, a science fiction author, activist, journalist and blogger. They discuss the power of large companies over the Internet, and Corey's advocacy for data privacy. Barry and Cory discuss platform decay on the Internet, and how companies keep operating profitably while the user experience decays. 

 

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0:00.0

I'm Hannah Frye and I'm on a mission to find out about a mysterious day called Q Day,

0:06.0

which experts think could be the moment our most precious encrypted data is suddenly at risk.

0:12.7

Learn more later in the podcast.

0:17.3

Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts Radio News.

0:22.8

This week on the podcast, a special bonus episode.

0:27.0

Corey Doctoro has a new book out entitled Injcification, all about the decay of digital platforms.

0:37.0

I've been reading Corey for a long time, both at

0:41.2

Boing Buying and Elsewhere. I'm a big fan of his takes on technology. I thought this conversation

0:47.5

was really intriguing, and I think you will also, with no further ado, my conversation with technology author Corey Doctoro.

0:58.6

Corey Doctor-O, welcome to Bloomberg.

1:09.0

Thank you very much, Barry. It's a great pleasure to be here.

1:11.2

It's a pleasure to have you. So, before we get into the book, I have to just go into a little bit about your background.

1:18.8

I think of you as a writer first, but you've such a multifaceted career. How do you describe what you do?

1:26.3

Well, you know, it's funny. Before I became a British citizen when I was living in London, every time I landed, I had to fill in a landing card with my occupation. It just had this little like three-quarter inch blank, and I would eventually just write in writer. But, you know, trying to explain to my grandmother when she was alive what I did for a living was always challenging. I'm a writer. I'm an activist. I've worked for the Electronic Frontier Foundation for nearly a quarter of a century now.

1:49.5

It's a digital rights group that tries to make sure that your human rights apply online and offline.

1:54.8

And these days, that the internet isn't taking away your human rights offline.

1:58.7

I write science fiction novels. I've written a couple of dozen of

2:01.5

those, won a bunch of awards, had New York Times bestsellers. And I'm a blogger. As you say,

2:06.7

I edited Boing Boing for 19 years, and these days I have my own blog, pluralistic.net. And I write

2:12.9

about tech policy, culture, science fiction, all kinds of stuff.

2:17.5

So let's start with tech culture and EFF.

2:22.1

What was the first issue that got you interested in exploring digital rights and just protecting user rights on the internet?

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