Hey everyone it's Rebecca and you're listening to Little Gold Men from Vanity Fair.

I am delighted and proud to introduce him as Academy Award winner.

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And the Oscar goes to the winner.

It's a tie.

And any little girl who's practicing their speech on the teller you never know.

Ma, I hit this world in Oscar. One of my favorite Apple TV shows, Pichinko is back for its second season, so I wanted to revisit my interview with the series creator Sue Hugh.

I spoke with her back in April 2022, when the first season of the show came out and I was so impressed by the scale of the show and how it managed to tackle the sweeping multi-generational multilingual story.

I got to ask her about the emotional process of pitching the show, shooting in Korea,

an Asian representation in Hollywood. Let's take a listen.

Today I'm joined by writer and creator of Pachinko Sue Hugh. Thank you Sue

Sue.

Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to talk about the show.

It's airing now so everyone can check it out on Apple TV Plus.

I would love to kind of start with what was the pitch you brought out to the town and people you

wanted involved with this project because this is such an epic book and I can

imagine sort of explaining it wasn't the easiest thing.

So how did you sort of explain what you wanted to do with the story?

Well, firstly, I broke the rule that they tell you in pitching, which is you're supposed to get it to 20

25 minutes and no matter what I did I couldn't do it with this pitch. I think I

pitched my pitch was 45 minutes and I first started off by playing a so-called family album visual presentation.

And I was so inspired by this one episode of Madman and I created a family photo album and I really wanted to set the stage and bring the listener and the buyers into this mindset of you're not watching a TV show, you're watching a generational saga, to think of your parents, think of your grandparents.

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