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🗓️ 6 December 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Well, thank you all so much for joining me. And if you both could just say who you are and what you do. |
| 0:14.0 | My name is Sophia Shoemaker. I'm a senior at Rampart High School. Awesome. And I'm Keisha Russell. I'm Senior Counsel at First Liberty Institute. |
| 0:22.8 | So let's talk about this case. |
| 0:24.7 | Let's talk about this story. |
| 0:26.2 | It involved a senior parking spot at your high school in Colorado, right? |
| 0:30.9 | Yeah. |
| 0:32.0 | So tell me a little bit more about the tradition. |
| 0:34.3 | You're painting or chalking this parking spot? Yeah, so each year the seniors get to |
| 0:41.0 | paint their own parking spot. They have to pay for it. And it's kind of just a little tradition they do |
| 0:46.1 | just to express themselves on their last year. Okay. And what did you choose to paint or to draw? |
| 0:53.2 | I originally wanted to choose the parable from Luke 15 of the shepherd in the 99 sheet, but then I kind of altered it to a backwards fish. |
| 1:03.1 | Okay, and tell me what does that symbolize? |
| 1:05.8 | The backwards fish is kind of what people in the Bible used to draw in the dirt when they couldn't really |
| 1:12.1 | talk about religion and they wanted to know if the other people were Christians. |
| 1:16.7 | So an Ixhas. |
| 1:17.9 | Yeah. |
| 1:18.5 | And was there a Bible verse or it was just that symbol? |
| 1:21.1 | No, it was just like a group of fish and then there was one fish swimming backwards. |
| 1:25.8 | Going the other direction, swimming upstream. |
| 1:28.2 | Yeah. |
| 1:28.5 | And were you the only one that did any kind of like Christian symbolism? |
| 1:32.9 | Well, we weren't actually allowed to do Christian imagery on our parking spaces, but I kind of snuck that one in there. |
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