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Hi bad women listeners, it's Alice again. The stories we cover in this season of bad women take place

against the backdrop of World War Two, and lots of them come as news even to acknowledged

experts in the field, Haley and Professor Julia Late, who you'll have heard in lots of episodes

of the series, sat down with historian James Holland to discuss them for his World War Two podcast

we have ways of making you talk. We thought you might like to hear their conversation, so here it is.

Acton Acton, welcome to We Have Ways to Make You Talk with me, James Holland, and today we've got

two very special guests. We've got Haley Rubenhold and Professor Julia Late, and Haley needs

little introduction to you, of course, is the award-winning best-selling author of five about the

the Ripper Victims, and Julia, you are Professor at the History and Archaeology Department at

Burtbert University, and an expert in prostitution, that aspect of women's lives, and you've just

started a new podcast series, haven't you, which is The Blackout Ripper, produced by Pushkin

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