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Mens Rea: A true crime podcast

Bonus Guilt Trip - The Hawe Family: Family Annihilation

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True Crime, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 23 December 2018

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Happy Holidays! As a special bonus and thank you, this patreon-exclusive episode is now out for everyone to listen to. Thank you for sticking with me through 2018, and wishing you and yours a very happy and prosperous New Year! In this episode, we take a closer look at a case that devastated a family, a community and shock the public at large. An entire family was wiped out, and by one of its parents. What had happened in this popular and prominent family in Castlerahan, Ballyjamesduff, Co. Cavan that led to this monstrous tragedy? Was it a case of severe mental health problems, or a sign of domestic abuse? We may never find the answer. Find us on Facebook or Twitter! With thanks to our supporters on Patreon! If you would like to support the podcast, head on over to Patreon.com.    Theme Song:  Quinns Song: The Dance Begins, by Kevin McLeod.  Sources:  Galen English, “Sorry for how I murdered them all' Alan Hawe in note he left behind”, in Evoke.ie https://evoke.ie/2017/12/20/news/irish-news/alan-hawe-note-left-behind (20/12/2017)  “Clodagh Hawe's mother tells inquest how 'normal' evening preceded murder-suicide” in BreakingNews.ie https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/clodagh-hawes-mother-tells-inquest-how-normal-evening-preceded-murder-suicide-819225.html (18/12/2017)  Cassie Delaney, “Relative of Clodagh Hawe issues powerful plea for people to remember Clodagh” in Her.ie https://www.her.ie/news/relative-of-clodagh-hawe-issues-powerful-plea-to-people-to-remember-clodagh-310265 (September 2016)  “School porn guilt behind Irish teacher's murder-suicide rampage” in IrishCentral.com https://www.irishcentral.com/news/family-murder-suicide-school-porn-shame-alan-hawe (05/01/2018)  Caroline Gauley, “Hawe Inquest: Alan Hawe had a fear of being seen as 'less than perfect'” in NorthernSound.ie https://www.northernsound.ie/hawe-inquest-alan-hawe-fear-seen-less-perfect/ (19/12/1027)  “Solicitor described Clodagh Hawe's family as 'extraordinarily dignified” in EveningEcho.ie https://www.eveningecho.ie/oneaday/Verdicts-returned-in-Hawe-family-inquest-d52cb8e7-039d-4532-af87-6634b2abef3a-ds (19/12/17)  Fiona Mallon, “One Year anniversary mass for Alan Hawe, who killed wife and sons in Cavan” in WLRFM.com https://www.wlrfm.com/2017/08/30/one-year-anniversary-mass-for-alan-hawe-who-killed-wife-and-sons-in-cavan/ (30/08/2017)  Colin Barrett, 'He had his reasons” in Granta.com https://granta.com/he-had-his-reasons/ (undated)  Meave Sheehan, “Ultimately we are in the haunting presence of the inexplicable” in The Irish Independent https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/meave-sheehan-on-hawe-tragedy-ultimately-we-are-in-the-haunting-presence-of-the-inexplicable-36434714.html (24/12/2017)  Conor Lally, “Alan Hawe had depressive symptoms for almost a decade, inquest told” in The Irish Times https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/coroner-s-court/alan-hawe-had-depressive-symptoms-for-almost-a-decade-inquest-told-1.3332363 (19/12/2017)  Stephen Breen, “Beast's Shame: Psycho Alan Hawe butchered entire family after being caught pleasuring himself at school where he worked while accessing porn” in The Sun https://www.thesun.ie/news/1994022/psycho-alan-hawe-butchered-entire-family-after-being-caught-pleasuring-himself-at-school-where-he-worked-while-accessing-pornography/ (02/01/2018)  Gary Meneely, “Monster's Pervert Past: Killer Alan Hawe slaughtered his family after he as caught accessing porn and allegedly engaging in sex act at school where he worked” in The Irish Sun https://www.thesun.ie/news/1957194/killer-dad-alan-hawe-slaughtered-his-wife-and-family-because-he-feared-he-would-be-exposed-for-watching-porn-at-work/ (21/12/2017)  Paul Neilan, “Alan Hawe: 'People think of me as a pillar of the community, if only they knew” in The Irish Examiner https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/alan-hawe-people-think-of-me-as-a-pillar-of-the-community-if-only-they-knew-464693.html (20/12/2017)  “One by one, Alan Hawe killed his wife and sons- only little Ryan didn't fight back” in The Belfast Telegraph https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/republic-of-ireland/one-by-one-alan-hawe-killed-his-wife-and-sons-only-little-ryan-didnt-fight-back-36419804.html (19/12/2017)  Ed Carty and Sophie Evans, “'I didn't know him': Devastated mum had coffee and biscuits with Alan Hawe hours before he killed her daughter and three grandsons” in The Irish Mirror https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/i-didnt-know-him-devastated-11724322 (19/12/2017)  David Maher, “Killer dad Alan Haw claims he murdered wife and sons because he did not want boys orphaned after his suicide” in The Irish Mirror https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/killer-dad-alan-hawes-final-11725495 (20/12/2017)  Gary Meneely, “Dark Secret: Devil dad Alan Hawe feared 'fall from grace' over a 'sexual matter' before butchering his family” in TheSun.co.uk https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5177901/devil-dad-alan-hawe-hid-a-dark-secret-and-feared-a-fall-from-grace-over-a-sexual-matter-before-butchering-his-family/ (20/12/2017)  Sandra Murphy, “Secret pron shame of murder-suicide dad Alan Hawe exposed” in Extra.ie https://extra.ie/2017/12/21/news/irish-news/secret-porn-shame-of-murder-suicide-dad-alan-hawe-exposed (21/12/2017)  Nicola Anderson, “Scant closure for two families left grappling to understand” in The Irish Independent https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/nicola-anderson-at-hawe-inquest-scant-closure-for-two-families-left-grappling-to-understand-36423617.html (20/12/2017)  Julian Robinson , “Teacher who slaughtered his wife and three children before taking his own life 'was caught performing a lewd act while watching porn at school'” in The Daily Mail https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5228959/Teacher-caught-watching-porn-killing-family.html (02/01/2018)  Catherine Devine, “'We are trying to cope with a tragedy beyond our understanding' – funeral if tragic Hawe family is told” in The Irish Independenthttps://www.independent.ie/irish-news/we-are-trying-to-cope-with-a-tragedy-beyond-our-understanding-funeral-of-tragic-hawe-family-is-told-35018898.html (02/09/2016)  “Murder-Suicide suspected after family of five found dead in house” in The Irish Independent https://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/irish-news/murdersuicide-suspected-after-family-of-five-found-dead-in-house-35004176.html (29/08/2016)  Nicola Anderson, “Silent shock and grief as beautiful family mourned ahead of funerals”, in The Irish Independent https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/silent-shock-and-grief-as-beautiful-family-mourned-ahead-of-funerals-35017907.html (03/09/2016)  Greg Harkin, “Family won't 'demonise' Alan as tragic Hawes to be laid to rest together” in The Irish Independent https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/family-wont-demonise-alan-as-tragic-hawes-to-be-laid-to-rest-together-35012159.html (01/09/2016)  Deirdre Reynolds, “Tears of a community for grief that knows no bounds” in The Irish Independent https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/tears-of-a-community-for-grief-that-knows-no-bounds-35015142.html (04/09/2016)  Ed Carty, “ Alan Hawe 'was troubled, depressed and severely mentally ill in the months before murder-suicide'” in IrishNews.com https://www.irishnews.com/news/republicofirelandnews/2017/12/19/news/alan-hawe-was-troubled-depressed-and-severely-mentally-ill-in-the-months-before-murder-suicide--1214775/ (19/12/2017)  Ed Carty, “Diagnosis of severe depressive illness does not ease our pain, say parents of Alan Hawe who killed wife Clodagh and their three sons” in IrishNews.com http://www.irishnews.com/news/republicofirelandnews/2017/12/19/news/diagnosis-of-depression-does-not-ease-our-pain-say-parents-of-alan-hawe-who-killed-wife-clodagh-and-their-three-sons-1214998/ (19/12/2017)

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0:00.0

Hi guys I just wanted to say happy holidays to all of my listeners. I appreciate you all so very much and because of that I've decided to release one of my Patreon exclusive episodes as a little holiday treat. So I hope you like this little

0:15.8

surprise and of course if you like it a lot you can head on over to patreon.com where you'll find other episodes just like it waiting for you.

0:24.0

Happy Christmas to everyone who's celebrating it,

0:27.0

and best wishes for 2019.

0:30.0

You are listening to the mens rea podcast and this is the story of the Ha family. Oh, Clowdahawdah Hall was a teacher at Orristown National School in County Meath.

1:16.6

She had grown up in Mount Nugent, County Cavan, and she had three sons, Liam 13, Nile 11 and Ryan just six. She was married to Alan Hall, who was also a teacher and a vice principal

1:30.9

at Castle Rahan national school

1:33.4

where the two younger boys also attended.

1:36.8

He was originally from Kilkenny,

1:38.8

and the family itself lived in Castle Rahan

1:41.9

a little village not too far from Bally James Duff in County Cavan.

1:46.0

The summer of 2016 had been much like any other, and by the end of August, the family were all preparing to go back to their respective schools.

1:56.0

The last weekend of the summer had been a busy one.

1:59.0

The family had attended a memorial mass for Alan's mother in his home place in County Kilkenny and the two older boys were involved in sports and had matches to get to.

2:08.8

Liam had played a basketball match in Virginia County Cabham that day, and his team had won.

2:16.2

That evening, before heading home,

2:18.3

the Haas called into the home of Clodah's mother, Mary Call.

2:23.0

The adults sat and chatted over coffee and biscuits in the kitchen, while the boys watched

2:27.1

TV.

2:28.8

The family appeared normal.

2:31.9

That night, Ryan, the youngest, needed a bath, so the family left at about 20 to 9.

2:38.0

The conversation at the door was that Clodagh would drop the two younger boys over to her

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